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[News] Spanish power cut
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portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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Thoughts and prayers!
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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I escaped the worst of it, but a refugee told me people are having to resort to SALAD for tea tonight.
cjd
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Hmmmm....that's alright until about 7.00pm, but what then....?
My thoughts are with you in ? spirit.......
Dorset Seagull
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How would these people have survived 1970s Britain ? Fond memories of candlelight and dinner cooked on the gas camping stove.
Lindfield by the Pond
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Spanish job
Jackthelad
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- Mar 31, 2010
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What’s scary is how quickly people panic and strip the shops of essentials.
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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Power outages in Spain and Portugal
M&S sending office staff home due to a cyber attack.
No internet at West Rise Junior School Eastbourne
Forget the Russians it's quite obviously an alien invasion force feeling out our vulnerabilities and ability to negate our defences !
M&S sending office staff home due to a cyber attack.
No internet at West Rise Junior School Eastbourne
Forget the Russians it's quite obviously an alien invasion force feeling out our vulnerabilities and ability to negate our defences !
- Nov 15, 2006
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When you’re YOUNG it’s fun
Loved candle light pub evenings
Not so much when you’re old!
bluenitsuj
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Drink it?
- Oct 20, 2022
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Maybe the black out might be a result of a solar flare. We do seem to be in a period of increased solar activity at the moment.
Strange coincindence the Guardian did a story on solar flares today
www.theguardian.com
Strange coincindence the Guardian did a story on solar flares today
How a solar storm could lead to a US nuclear disaster worse than Chornobyl | Mark Leyse
Solar storms as intense as a 1921 superstorm have the potential to cause a nightmare scenario – and we are unprepared
www.theguardian.com
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I don't really understand this inertia and power grids stuff, but reading a lot similar to this...
"Wow! I know this is actually a really horrible event but on some level I can’t help but be excited as a grid enthusiast. The power outages in Spain and environs are so bad that they require a black start!
Think of a grid as a house of cards that constantly has to get regenerated. Even when we get awful blackouts like the 2021 Texas power crisis, the grid operators kept the heart of this “house of cards” standing. This meant that as power generating resources came back online they can be joined to the grid with minimal fuss.
But if the ENTIRE house of cards fall down and you essentially don’t have a minimal functional grid to join the power plants to…this is what you call a black start. I’ve never followed one in real time before.
PVs: hero or villain?
The cause of this outage is still murky but I’ve started hearing some murmurs that the lack of inertia on the Spanish grid might be a cause. What is inertia? It’s a difficult property to explain. Think about the force that keeps bringing you back to center as your bike veers one way or the other.
On a grid inertia with its salutary stabilizing property is naturally provided by big spinning things: turbines, flywheels. They are not provided by photovoltaics. So a grid high in photovoltaics and low in inertia could indeed be more vulnerable.
But we don’t know what the cause of the blackout actually is, and ironically I read the photovoltaics are the only power still running on the grids right now.
How does a black start happen? You need a station that’s black-start capable. I think that’s gotta be a big fossil plant? But it will be an arduous process and I’m glad it didn’t happen in the winter in a cold country or people would be dying."
- Jul 17, 2003
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They are already here in numbers, they’ve been arriving by small boats for nearly 8 years and we send a welcome party out to assist them to shore, and boy oh boy they are laughing at at our defencesquite obviously an alien invasion force feeling out our vulnerabilities and ability to negate our defences !
- Feb 22, 2014
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At least I found out that I can climb to my 4th storey apartment without the lift. Don’t want to do it again mind.
- Feb 22, 2014
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My neighbour went out for a walk and reckoned he saw teenagers sitting on a bench chatting! I suppose it’s possible.
Why do we have to constantly jump to conspiracy theories when something like this happens FFS!Forget the Russians it's quite obviously an alien invasion force feeling out our vulnerabilities and ability to negate our defences !
Yes, it was probably aliens but the jump to nefarious motives is baseless. They probably wanted to charge their spacecraft, which as you can imagine, requires a lot more electricity than your average Tesla. Because they don't speak Spanish (have you ever seen an alien in a Spanish class?), they probably didn't ask anyone and just took it leaving an i.o.u note.
Sometimes, it's the simplest and most obvious thing that's happened, no need to invent an alien invasion force!
Boroseagull
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Our electric was back on when we retuned home yesterday afternoon from being down in a very windy Tarifa for the day - however no internet and no phone connection. So after all these years (60 this year) we had to resort to making conversation. No Emmerdale or Corrie to distract. Only one answer to it, retire to bed early.....and read of course. All back to normal this morning as you may have guessed.
. So after all these years (60 this year) we had to resort to making conversation. No Emmerdale or Corrie to distract. Only one answer to it, retire to bed early.....and read of course. All back to normal this morning as you may have guessed.
- Jul 10, 2003
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They are already here in numbers, they’ve been arriving by small boats for nearly 8 years and we send a welcome party out to assist them to shore, and boy oh boy they are laughing at at our defences
And thank you to our GB News correspondent for their report on the Spanish power cut
