[Misc] Autism - Neurodiversity

Eric the meek said:

I don't know. I wish I did.

I remember going to speech therapy as a teenager, and one of the questions was 'Are you left-handed?'. So they knew the link 45 years ago.

Around that time, I read of four cases of stammerers who had been in road traffic accidents in the US, in the 1960s. In all four cases, the victim had to have half their brain removed. You can guess the rest. Their stammers disappeared overnight.

Obviously, this is not a recommendation for stammerers to have half their brain removed. Results could be unpredictable.
But it is interesting nonetheless......

Some therapists have theorised that stammerers have two speech centres, one in each hemisphere, and both are competing for control. From my experience at the sharp end of stammering, it rings true.

I have never stammered once when I sing. Or when I whisper. The reason could be that we use a different part of the brain for these functions.

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Thunder Bolt said:

My granddaughter was diagnosed at university in her second year, and now has a 2:1 in Classical history, studying her Masters.

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Thunder Bolt said:

Were you forced to use your right hand at school? I thought that teachers had moved on from that before the 70s.
King George V was a famous stammerer which is the whole premise of the film the King's Speech. He was beaten by tutors until he used his right hand.

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Eric the meek said:

Maybe it takes an intelligent person, in a face-to-face 1 to 1 conversation to spot it.

I'm guessing that she is intelligent herself, so has learned to mask it well.

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BadFish said:

Ironically, I have been told that my adhd wasn't real because 'everyone is getting diagnosed these days'.

Personally I think it's brilliant that we are learning to understand our brains better.

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BadFish said:

That is really interesting, I have heard that about singing. I would imagine they are getting closer and closer to finding out the link.

My understanding is that our knowledge of the brain is improving at quite a rate these days.

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Zeberdi said:

I often wonder sometimes if we as a society are looking at neurotypical v neurodivergence in an unhelpful way seeing them as ‘either or’ brain characteristics but rather that everyone is on the one spectrum in varying degrees?

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Right Brain Ronnie said:

Thanks for the bounce, I have scanned through the thread and is excellent for Autism knowledge and support.
But neourodivesity has many segmentations and Dyslexia and ADHD are two of the biggest ones, but they are all very important to understand.

I feel we need two threads Dyslexia and ADHD ones if our voices are to be heard of even cared about. They maybe many watchers that have never post for fear of being riduculed, this would open up a whole new engagement.

For example, you could not just have a politics thread, you need a Tory, labour, etc threads, as all will be a jumble especially hard for a dyslexic person to wade through multiple post to find the relevant post within.

Do you have any objection for me to start these threads off?

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Zeberdi said:

I often wonder sometimes if we as a society are looking at neurotypical v neurodivergence in an unhelpful way seeing them as ‘either or’ brain characteristics but rather that everyone is on the one spectrum in varying degrees?

I know with my process of diagnosis, the support is only really available when neurodivergent symptoms impact significantly on day to day living as mine do - at times I certainly fall below ‘high functioning ‘ with frequent meltdowns - I received immediate support even before a formal diagnosis - the initial telephone assessment from point of referral by the GP was only a few weeks.

So even if there are years to formal diagnosis, those on the waiting list as adults are nonetheless triaged if further support is needed as it was for me.

Not so sure whether children can also get access to additional support whilst on the waiting list for a formal diagnosis but it is worth pursuing interim support on the basis of the initial phone assessment and through the GP referral.

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BadFish said:

I think this needs a massive 'f*** you'!!

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BadFish said:

That is really interesting, I have heard that about singing. I would imagine they are getting closer and closer to finding out the link.

My understanding is that our knowledge of the brain is improving at quite a rate these days.

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Curious Orange said:

What a pratt that man is.

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Inside an anti-vaccine autism summit in the age of RFK Jr.

Public health experts say the anti-vaccine views fronted by the HHS secretary are wrong and undermine trust in science. But a recent three-day gathering shows his followers still believe in him.

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deslynhamsmoustache1 said:

I remember seeing an interview with a famous actor (name escapes me) that had a bad stammer, but if he spoke with an accent, say Geordie or Brum whilst acting there was no stammer at all. He put it down to using a slightly different part of the brain when taking on the voice of a character.
yes, I'm left handed, no I don't have a stammer, but if I were to read out loud in an accent the words flow a lot more coherently and pacey
than in my own voice.

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Bakero said:

Scatman John had a very bad stutter and used music to get over it, as he explained in the song:

Everybody stutters one way or the other
So check out my message to you
As a matter of fact, I don't let nothin' hold you back
If the Scatman can do it, so can you

Everybody's sayin' that the Scatman stutters
But doesn't ever stutter when he sings
But what you don't know I'm gonna tell you right now
That the stutter and the scat is the same thing to you
I'm the Scatman
Where's the Scatman?
I'm the Scatman

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BadFish said:

I think this needs a massive 'f*** you'!!

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Greg Bobkin said:

Ignorant, insensitive and non-empathetic arsehole. Mind you, that pretty much covers everyone in that administration.

This thread resonates with me more now than it did when it originally came up because we are going through the various assessments for the youngest Bobkin Jnr (as well as a tonne of other stuff). It's complicated because she's already diagnosed with another condition (PANDAS), which isn't recognised on the NHS, but shows a lot of the same traits as autism/ADHD. It has given me a shed ton load more respect for the everyone who is involved in dealing with the conditions, so for RFK Jnr to say something like that is depressing – but completely not surprising.

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BadFish said:

All the best with it, it's a long journey but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

After rough primary school years mine are now surviving and thriving in their own ways. My oldest has found his place at university and Mrs badfish and harbour hopes that he will find his people and maybe even a partner.

It's not easy but it is worth it. If you need an ear or advice please get in touch.

BF

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