Cotton Socks
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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President
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He cherry picked the one day there was a part recovery, then mostly lost again today. Overall his mates are down by $100b’s.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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The tariff debacle looks increasingly like insider trading (or is this a handy bi product?). It also appears that the US democratic system is now powerless to stop him.
The question is where will justice come from? I a country with a love of guns and presidential assassination attempts there is surely only one answer?
The question is where will justice come from? I a country with a love of guns and presidential assassination attempts there is surely only one answer?
BadFish
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Would there be evidence if his mates had sold early last week before the tariffs were announced and then bought again yesterday when they were paused.
Surely this has to be investigated.
Would they have all been cheering and smug if they hadn't actually made the money?
They’re immensely rich already and alt right propagandists, towing the MAGA line, it’s all orchestrated to portray an image of Trump being successful unlike evil Sleepy Joe. Utter tosh, facts out of the window. Their shareholding values went up for one day after days of far heavier losses. They weren’t paraded this evening or Tuesday evening after big losses.
One other thing. Trump didn’t plan the last week to make people short term money. His plans went specularly wrong, he had to completely backtrack. Buddies betting with insider knowledge a week ago that he was about to MAGA, a Wall Street boom, would’ve got badly hurt. Hopefully.
BadFish
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So the people in that room have in fact lost loads of money in the last week?
I am not really arguing with you as I have no idea one way or the other.
I would like to see an investigation though as there are plenty of people who know better than me that are suggesting insider trading. Especially with the 'now is a good time to buy' tweet.
There are many Republican politicians that have no balls. No balls, testees are missing. Adam Kinzinger had some balls. He sacrificed his political career.
The Clamp
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Lots of people have made lots of money. Not the regular working folk Trump claims to be doing this for though.
A comment from an African American from my own city council in Indiana that I grew up knowing.
This echoes tactics used by autocrats throughout history: Stalin’s purges, Nixon’s enemies list (though less successfully executed), and more recently, Orbán in Hungary, Duterte in the Philippines, or Putin in Russia. If normalized, it risks further turning the United States into an illiberal democracy or autocracy, where elections occur but power is retained through fear, manipulation, and coercion. Or worse, a violent kleptocracy like Russia."
I think he borrowed the words from another source but did post them on Facebook.
This echoes tactics used by autocrats throughout history: Stalin’s purges, Nixon’s enemies list (though less successfully executed), and more recently, Orbán in Hungary, Duterte in the Philippines, or Putin in Russia. If normalized, it risks further turning the United States into an illiberal democracy or autocracy, where elections occur but power is retained through fear, manipulation, and coercion. Or worse, a violent kleptocracy like Russia."
I think he borrowed the words from another source but did post them on Facebook.
I follow Kinzinger on Twatter ... always relevant and insightful. Yes, he is standing up (and vilified for it).
I've just read an article that floats the idea that 'debt forgiveness' might be the US's desired end game with certain countries. Japan, China, UK, Canada hold a lot of US debt. Could 'debt forgiveness' be how they buy their way into a low tariff environment with the US 
No idea, I'm no economist, but this may not just be about export/import 'imbalances'.
No idea, I'm no economist, but this may not just be about export/import 'imbalances'.
I've just read an article that floats the idea that 'debt forgiveness' might be the US's desired end game with certain countries. Japan, China, UK, Canada hold a lot of US debt. Could 'debt forgiveness' be how they buy their way into a low tariff environment with the US
No idea, I'm no economist, but this may not just be about export/import 'imbalances'.
Link?
Green Cross Code Man
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I can't see that as the burden would be distributed very unfairly in the case of China, Japan and us.I've just read an article that floats the idea that 'debt forgiveness' might be the US's desired end game with certain countries. Japan, China, UK, Canada hold a lot of US debt. Could 'debt forgiveness' be how they buy their way into a low tariff environment with the US
No idea, I'm no economist, but this may not just be about export/import 'imbalances'.
Especially as the message was actually “Now is a good time to buy. DJT.”
Yes, those are initials, but apparently he hardly ever signs off messages like that.
However DJT also happens to be the stock market reference for the Trump Media & Technology Group.
So why suddenly sign off a message like that…
I do think the bond market will play more of a roll in all of this but not “forgiveness”. China and Japan actually hold a reasonable power over the US economy…..and I feel Trump is only just realizing this.I've just read an article that floats the idea that 'debt forgiveness' might be the US's desired end game with certain countries. Japan, China, UK, Canada hold a lot of US debt. Could 'debt forgiveness' be how they buy their way into a low tariff environment with the US
No idea, I'm no economist, but this may not just be about export/import 'imbalances'.
Coming soon!
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
We have almost as much as the Chinese.
The missing link...
Could Donald Trump’s ‘endgame’ be global debt forgiveness?
While it sounds farfetched could Trump's endgame with reciprocal tariffs be global forgiveness of US debt by foreign governments?
www.livewiremarkets.com
China's statement to its banks to stop buying US debt seemed to get noticed