You do realise this is the narrative that gets on everybody else's tits?
It's bollocks. The average Newcastle fan is no more passionate about his club than I am about mine.
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[Football] Dan Burn and Newcastle Media Wankfest
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It's bollocks. The average Newcastle fan is no more passionate about his club than I am about mine.
nickbrighton
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one of the things that irritated me about the wall to wall coverage, wasn't just the wall to wall coverage, but some of the comments from pundits and media- about how it means "more" to Newcastle fans, about how they are more passionate than others, i.e. "better fans" and somehow more deserving than others. I cant agree with that, they are undoubtedly loyal fans, noisy fans, and they turn up at St James Park - but they live in a city of 300 000, they are a one team city , and they have spent something like 5 years out of 40 outside the top tier, and then it was second tier. not third and fourth. Id say Sunderlands fans have stuck by thier club in more trying circumstances.
Good luck to them, and let them enjoy it, and its good that a non top six has won something, but they aint more "special" or "more deserving" than anyone else (well plastic "big 6" excepted)
Nottseagull
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I've no idea why multi quote isn't working, but that post is at odds with the one you made five minutes earlier!
I'll leave aside any obvious jibes about attendance.
But, look, I know it's hard to accept but... I think football really does mean 'more' to folk in (mainly northern) working class towns and cities where its closely tied to identity.
(Of course, it doesn't mean 'more' to the average Liverpool fan, because the average 'fan' is now overseas.)
When we struggled to sell tickets for Newcastle due to the KO time/trains, they had no trouble finding locals to take the seats.
51,566... just before a big Wembley away day. That's v impressive imo. The extras wouldn't have been passing tourists, either.
Newcastle is a football city through and through. Fair play to them, I say.
(Shame about the Saudi thing obv - but that's a different matter)
The Grockle
Formally Croydon Seagull
If we won the Fa Cup and Dunk scored the opening goal the media would be all over it.
We got the same old shit, increasing year on year, about Man U after Munich.
It was a terrible event, and a tragedy for those who died.
Somehow they managed to monetize it.
By accident as far as I can see.
One of the oddest phenomena in world sport.
Now sadly for them ruined by the greedy Glazers.
I would be relaxed about it all were it not for the 83 cup final,
and the cheating and maiming that was allowed to go unchallenged.
Because it was ManU, as far as I can see.
Followed by 9 (NINE) years in the EPL under Fergy without conceding a penalty at home.
That's as likely as me going nine years without calling *something* a f***ing undeserving nest of cheating vainglorious ****s.
But they have seen it all and won the lot
pigmanovich
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There’s less romanticism around us though.
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Before they became Saudi Govt puppets I would have enjoyed them winning but since they embraced the head choppers I couldn't care less. They're not "great fans". I really would walk away from supporting the Albion in any way if we were owned by such people.
My evil side would enjoy Brentford winning at Newcastle's next home game after they come out with the trophy and lap it up pre match. Shame the odds are only 3/1 due to Brentford's excellent recent away form.
My evil side would enjoy Brentford winning at Newcastle's next home game after they come out with the trophy and lap it up pre match. Shame the odds are only 3/1 due to Brentford's excellent recent away form.
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Since when did one intellectually challenged supporter become 'they're' ?
I see this a lot. Someone makes a coarse or untoward comment and it's 'they're'. In general, Newcastle fans have a very good reputation.
I wouldn't be supporting the Albion anymore if we had the owners they had though.
aolstudios
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That was one just one example. That thread didn't have one 'fan' who wasn't defending the owners & many were abusive. I follow the lone voice of a toon page that highlights the Saudis' behaviour & they get 100% dogs abuse with every post. It's not one supporter, it's virtually all that post
JetsetJimbo
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This whole discussion works a lot better if you replace the word passionate with desperate.
Newcastle's fans are probably among the most desperate to win a trophy of all fans in English football. They're so desperate, they'll even embrace something as grotesque as the Saudi state owning their club, as long as it means they get some trophies. We'd all love to see Brighton win a trophy, but I think most of us would draw a line there. Not Newcastle's desperate fans, though.
The media obviously aren't going to use that wording, they're going to stick with passionate. But know that they mean desperate and it all makes a lot more sense.
Newcastle's fans are probably among the most desperate to win a trophy of all fans in English football. They're so desperate, they'll even embrace something as grotesque as the Saudi state owning their club, as long as it means they get some trophies. We'd all love to see Brighton win a trophy, but I think most of us would draw a line there. Not Newcastle's desperate fans, though.
The media obviously aren't going to use that wording, they're going to stick with passionate. But know that they mean desperate and it all makes a lot more sense.
cheshunt seagull
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Like a lot of people on here I find the excessive romanticising of this win pretty irritating but when the train pulls into Newcastle and you see the stadium dominating the skyline it does make a statement about priorities.
Nothing to do with the fact it’s on a hill?
In my mind I still see the floodlights at the Goldstone when I’m on the train, and my heart still flutters.
The sports washing is complete there.
Oliver Kay put a perfectly reasonable and balanced piece on The Athletic this week explaining why he felt conflicted about their win and yet the comments section was absolutely full of whataboutery from their fans. City this, PSG that, not a single one daring to agree or criticise their owners in any way.
pigmanovich
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The most inane response is “all football club owners are dodgy in some way.” Err, no they’re not
aolstudios
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Perfect
Stato
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They've now agreed their bus tour for Saturday: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-of-open-top-bus-parade-after-carabao-cup-win
Couldn't have done it without us, but will we get a thank you for knocking them out of the FA Cup? No gratitude some people.
Couldn't have done it without us, but will we get a thank you for knocking them out of the FA Cup? No gratitude some people.
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Rags to riches? Hereford? Home games at Gillingham? Tony Bloom lifelong fan? And his family!
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If we won the FA Cup the newspapers would be full of our story. You can also add March and Dunk spending their entire professional careers with us - especially if one of them scored - to your list of points.
pigmanovich
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Oh, there’s certainly room for it with us, and both promotion to the PL and qualification for Europe prompted some affectionate pieces about us, but with the Toons there’s this sense they’re a storied club whose trophy drought is a massive injustice.