The problem with taking the wrong job at the wrong time four times in a row means its a bit hard to evaluate him as a manager.
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[Football] Frank Lampards Coventry ?
- Thread starter nickbrighton
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- Aug 8, 2005
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I like Frank, I really do. If he was German or Spanish or Italian he would have been credited with a good job at Chelsea (first time), an okay job at Derby and a quite exceptional achievement at Coventry.
I actually think being English has held him back a bit so would love to see him progress well at Coventry.
Future England manager in waiting.
I actually think being English has held him back a bit so would love to see him progress well at Coventry.
Future England manager in waiting.
Dick Swiveller
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- Sep 9, 2011
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Watched the first 15 minutes of their Stoke game and their defending was reminiscent of our thumping of Everton. Championship is probably his level as he has looked way out of his depth in the PL.
Yep, he's been unfairly lumped in with Wayne Rooney and Steven Gerrard - who are of course both shit at management.
The most enjoyable/hilarious part of Lampard's managerial career was the second leg of Derby's Championship play-offs with Leeds. Leeds already spent the entire post match at Pride Park singing "stop crying Frank Lampard" thinking the job was done - and didn't like it much when he threw it back at them at Elland Road after his side destroyed Leeds 4-2 and went to Wembley instead of them.
Would be lovely to see Leeds f*ck it up against Coventry this time round.
Any Chelsea manager who has a win percentage of under 25 needs to be applauded. I loved his 2nd stint at Chelsea (like I loved Shearer managing Newcastle)
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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I was one of the naysayers regarding the likes of Frank and Wayne getting jobs on the back of their name rather than any managerial record, both have at best, kept teams at the same level , however I have been proved wrong regarding Frank. What he has done at Coventry has been outstanding, and he will have become a much better coach/manager for the experience of taking a struggling team and improving them
I am happy to change my mind, now if Wayne could do the same....
I am happy to change my mind, now if Wayne could do the same....
Brian Munich
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- Jul 7, 2008
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You thought Trump winning the election was a good thing, so I think we can ignore your gammony ramblings.
Durlston
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- Jul 15, 2009
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Brian, the snooker and huge Coventry City fan, who always goes to the Crucible and is seen on the BBC for each of the 17 days of the World Championship, sports the famous brown shirt sometimes - It's modernised and looks quite decent. Every St. George's Day he dons the current England top as well - good man! 
- Aug 8, 2005
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I don't mind taking you on in the politics threads but is really fair to pick me out on this when we are discussing football? Really?
Mr Bridger
Sound of the suburbs
Would like to see Coventry go up, although not keen on Lampard.
Local game for me and can pop in and see my mother who lives in Binley Woods, just down the road.
Local game for me and can pop in and see my mother who lives in Binley Woods, just down the road.
- Apr 5, 2014
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No need for that. We have a political thread. Play the ball not the man.
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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I was born there so its my 'second team' , regards Frank never had an issue with him. A victim of his own success as a footballer i.e. everyone wants him as a manager because he was a good footballer and good footballer equals good manager ( not).
Hope they come up this time.
Hope they come up this time.
- Apr 5, 2014
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Yes, I was taken to that match on my birthday in 1980. I was in the West Stand. One wag shouting that Cov's performance that day was matching the colour of their kit. I think it was a draw in the end mind.I’ve never forgiven them for this abomination of an away kit, in BROWN…
I seem to recall some of their players getting “lost“ in the shadows of the West Stand at The Goldstone!
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If you say your English these days, you get thrown into jail.
oldboyroy
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This. Be funny if Leeds end up in play offs and Coventry do them! I like Frank and Coventry and hope they can get up. Thought they were very unlucky not to get to cup final last season and it'll be another Premier league game within an hour of us together to next season
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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These days, if you can't differentiate between 'your' and 'you're' you get arrested and thrown in jail.
And potentially put on ignore by HWT
At the risk of misinterpretation, I clearly shouldn't of posted that . . . .These days, if you can't differentiate between 'your' and 'you're' you get arrested and thrown in jail.
And potentially put on ignore by HWT
Given that Silva at Fulham was very average at Sporting, Olympiacos, Hull, Watford and Everton but still had a really good overall reputation, and Pochettino was above average at Southampton and Espanyol but underwhelmed at Chelsea, PSG and (in the end) Spurs but retains a reputation as one of the game's most desirable managers, I don't think that's a harsh statement to make.
I think that clubs in England seem far more likely to give jobs to sub-par overseas coaches (West Ham sacking David Moyes and replacing him with a worse, Spanish David Moyes is case in point), than overseas clubs hiring sub-par English coaches (although that Parker to Belgium move was a weird one). That said, both Will Still and Rosenior were both relatively unproven, so maybe that's changing.
Anyway, I came here to say that 9 wins form the last 10 is an incredible achievement. If he gets them promoted from 17th when he took over then that could go down as one of the great Championship managerial achievements.
The perspectives are always skewed.
Should Frank have a management career where he never really does anything in the pl, but bumps championship teams up into promotion contention, orv occasionally up out of relegation places you could easily argue he was in the top 30 managers of our pyramid at any time.
Some would rate him higher but I reckon top 30 of players in the PL at any point doesn't seem far off.
Should Frank have a management career where he never really does anything in the pl, but bumps championship teams up into promotion contention, orv occasionally up out of relegation places you could easily argue he was in the top 30 managers of our pyramid at any time.
Some would rate him higher but I reckon top 30 of players in the PL at any point doesn't seem far off.