- Aug 24, 2020
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Not sure how I feel about this.....
Ukraine agrees minerals deal with US
Kyiv hopes agreement on jointly exploring resources will improve relations with Trump administrationwww.ft.com
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
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armchairclubber
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Abbreviation of "they will", oh I see what you mean
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The court that granted him bail under those conditions.
I'm not sure if I should laugh or just agree.
- Jan 25, 2025
- 922
Same.
It seems they’ve won some good concessions, but it’s still little more than “sign this and we’ll maybe consider talking to you more, if we feel like it”.
It’s less of an extortion than the original offer, but that’s still what it is.
- Aug 24, 2020
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My Dad used to say, if you can't decide what to do, decide to do nothing.Either or both.
That's a good strap line you have
Indeed. Goalkeepers facing penalties take note - just stand in the middle.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Hmmm... I've no effing idea. It's a bit vague, no? But it mentions investment in Ukraine reconstruction and resource development so that sounds I'm ok.Ukraine agrees minerals deal with US
Kyiv hopes agreement on jointly exploring resources will improve relations with Trump administration
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This bit
: "We have heard multiple times from the US administration that it’s part of a bigger picture,” hmmm, I bet it is, to benefit the US even more.I'm really nervous for them: this leaves Ukraine open to interference,/ manipulation from Trump, his flunkies and especially Musk.
Their parliament may throw it out, or should they relax cos it's only a prelim agreement?
- Jan 25, 2025
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Is anywhere else reporting this? I’m not seeing much.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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getting a ceasfire probably would count as peace in Trumps head. though it is part of the process and having everyone stop shooting in current stalemate isn't a bad thing. it could take months or even years once you've got that, because i dont see either side backing down from some red lines.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Agree.
Was really hoping they'd stick with EU offer and tell Trump to do one.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Ukrainians know what they're doing. It's their existence. Their war.
Whatever they decide, it's the right decision.
JamesAndTheGiantHead
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Bleak pessimists view;
Russia won’t cause any issues whilst there’s American contractors in Ukraine mining, but the moment the well runs dry and the Americans leave, it’s open season again in 4 years time after Russia’s economy and military has recovered.
Russia won’t cause any issues whilst there’s American contractors in Ukraine mining, but the moment the well runs dry and the Americans leave, it’s open season again in 4 years time after Russia’s economy and military has recovered.
- Nov 11, 2009
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You'd hope so.
But then again, Ukrainians put their trust once before into the Budapest Memorandum signatories.
They have a history of being shat on after acting in good faith.
armchairclubber
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Understand what you're saying, though depending on context, afraid it sounds harsh.
Just to clarify, as you know, they didn't start it, choose it themselves or even antagonise it themselves. They've been left in the shit.
Certainly don't think that we, safely here in the UK, can have the view or make demands that we must defeat Putin now.
That's not for us to decide at Ukraines, and others expense, particularly when they have a chance for peace.
Justice and accountability may have to wait.
i wonder if it means the fund invests in the mineral exploration/extraction by US companies
, i dunno, sounds a bit circular
- Aug 24, 2020
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I didn't mean it to sound harsh. Regulars on here will know that.
I agree with your last part. If Ukraine want to accept a deal, then I support their decision.
- Nov 11, 2009
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On what terms Ukraine settle, I agree.
But we do have a vested interest in seeing Putin fall..the man who used Polonium 210 in London and then Novichok in Salisbury.
He threatens Baltics, he's constantly undermining our democracies and funding every party that seeks to destroy western societies.
He's a menace and the world will be a much better place once he's burning in hell