W ell that's cheered me up
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. Yes, Labour has a chance to set different standards...it won't be easy but it's a chance.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
The Guardian wades in
www.theguardian.com
Rev Vennells wept but couldn’t remember much about sending innocent subpostmasters to jail. All so long ago | Marina Hyde
As the former Post Office CEO faced the inquiry and her victims, she said ‘sorry’ a lot. About what? It was never really clear, says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde
www.theguardian.com
Interestingly the opening statements of the inquiry revealed that the Fujitsu solution should have been discounted during the tender process. Obviously it was a cheaper solution so no suprise that it was selected.
Then when the project hit loads of issues and failed to deliver it was suggested to Tony Blair to pull the plug, with certain cabinet ministers recommending this. He didn't, evidence seems to suggest the cost to Fujitsu were 300m this and potential embarrassment to Japan/ threat to relations was...a factor.
A catalogue of incorrect decisions for over 20 years.
Then when the project hit loads of issues and failed to deliver it was suggested to Tony Blair to pull the plug, with certain cabinet ministers recommending this. He didn't, evidence seems to suggest the cost to Fujitsu were 300m this and potential embarrassment to Japan/ threat to relations was...a factor.
A catalogue of incorrect decisions for over 20 years.
Not even mentioned on R4 news headlines this morning.
But I did get to hear the PM say he was "extremely proud" of the achievements of the last 14 years of Tory government. By calling a GE now, at least he can abandon the legislation to end "no fault" evictions.
I'm looking forward to another day of Vennels being shamed and humilitated and exposed as the lying, corrupt, incompetent %&$( that she is. If she doesn't get banged up for her cover-up then we will know for sure that our "justice" system is nothing of the sort.
But I did get to hear the PM say he was "extremely proud" of the achievements of the last 14 years of Tory government. By calling a GE now, at least he can abandon the legislation to end "no fault" evictions.
I'm looking forward to another day of Vennels being shamed and humilitated and exposed as the lying, corrupt, incompetent %&$( that she is. If she doesn't get banged up for her cover-up then we will know for sure that our "justice" system is nothing of the sort.
In other news.
2027 for any charges for Grenfell Tower
in case anyone is thinking justice can be swift.
In case anyone thinks Vennels might be the only one under scrutiny today.
2027 for any charges for Grenfell Tower
in case anyone is thinking justice can be swift.
In case anyone thinks Vennels might be the only one under scrutiny today.
I worked in that area for years, a hybrid business -IT person.
As you say, reengineering business processes is critical and difficult. When it's done correctly, the result is far more satisfying and beneficial all round than just slapping in a new IT system onto out of date processes.
It's very complex because of 20 entities under the spotlight, some lying ... contractors, consultants, suppliers, some are overseas.
I do think there'll be criminal prosecutions because explicit building codes were broken, also money saved by surreptitiously and illegally using cheaper products.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I don't recall seems to be the standard answer in most enquiries. A sort of mass outbreak of forgetfulness, or lost emails.
Do you think it will get down to the level of individuals or stop at 'company' level?
My guess would be corporate manslaughter.
Yes, most likely.
British Bulldog
The great escape
- Feb 6, 2006
- 10,911
It's very painful viewing, people died, people went to prison and people went bankrupt. ffs stop hiding behind "I don't recall"
fly high
Well-known member
Plus 'I wasn't involved in that', 'I wasn't informed', 'They are not my words', 'It wasn't my decision' etc. She was the CEO FFS, what DID she do to earn her wodge of cash & bonuses?.
Mellor 3 Ward 4
Well-known member
No wonder there was 'no money left'
Getting to the crux of it, what an awful day for PV and Mr.Davis.
She said at one point "I wouldn't use those words" about something in an email from her. Mr Beer simply said "You did".
Worried Man Blues
Well-known member
I liked the collective groan from the crowd when she started weeping again, and she got it ha ha
Another was when the unruly crowd were ‘told off’ by the judge after she’d lied.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
and then she cannot recall who first mentioned those words to her(unsafe witness) so that she subsequently used them in an email.
I've watched some of this on playback and it's staggering that she recalls being informed about a problem e.g. unsafe witness relating to undisclosed bugs, but did not make the completely obvious link that many, probably all, convictions were impacted by the bugs and the lying witness. It's blindingly obvious that she did, in fact, make the link but the executive decision was made to ignore it to protect the PO's reputation and her massive bonus. Of course, she doesn't want to admit that.