[Albion] Liam Rosenior - Next Brighton manager?
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clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Better than Hull.
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
Easy to criticise clubs for sacking managers. We’ve received it. But I’d take Liam back at the Amex.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
At what capacity? He’s not ready to be our manager just yet.
Based on what out of interest ?
OzMike
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Wayne Rooney's next appointment ?
mikeyjh
Well-known member
Sums it up nicely for me, many of the players that got us promoted were bought in by Liam - Given that we had a squad of 5 and under strict embargo when he took the interim job, he did well. (Owner) Clowes felt that at the time, the job would be too much pressure for a rookie manager, I think he was probably right. I think he's been unlucky at Hull, reasonably well backed but was coming from a low base.
It can but Hull were barely outside of the relegation zone just before took over and he led them to their highest championship finish in 8 years - I think we've all learned that continuity is a good thing down there!
bhadebenhams
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- Mar 14, 2009
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He was not sacked at Derby for footballing reasons, more to do with Paris.
nicko31
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Hull's loss...
He got mauled by the tigers
Never can tell with wages on loans, but they got a few really good loans in from the PL, doubt this was cheap
Delap, Carvalho, Traore, Giles, Morton, Connolly 1 year deal won’t have been cheap. Philogene & Tufan also extremely good players for that level
After the absolute pasting we got from other fans, media and "football people" after Hughton got the sack, I'm never quick to judge what look like weird signings too harshly.
I think Hull could have reasonably expected to make the playoffs given their January signings, overall budget and league position going into the final few weeks. If that's the measure of their success and Rosenior failed, then it's tough to argue with the sacking. Remember, we we sacked Hughton after he achieved his objective for the season.
I think Hull could have reasonably expected to make the playoffs given their January signings, overall budget and league position going into the final few weeks. If that's the measure of their success and Rosenior failed, then it's tough to argue with the sacking. Remember, we we sacked Hughton after he achieved his objective for the season.
To all those being careful not to criticise Hull for sacking their manager before comparing it to Hughton's sacking down here, I'll say this:
In times like this it's always a good idea to check out what the fans think. With Hughton, there were those of us who thought it was shocking, but it was clear that most of us realised his time was up after 6 months of defensive dross that didn't work well. Compare that to the Hull message board (or that of Birmingham's after Rowett and then Eustace got sacked): near universal condemnation.
Based on the response of their fans, they'll only have themselves to blame if they find themselves down the table next season.
In times like this it's always a good idea to check out what the fans think. With Hughton, there were those of us who thought it was shocking, but it was clear that most of us realised his time was up after 6 months of defensive dross that didn't work well. Compare that to the Hull message board (or that of Birmingham's after Rowett and then Eustace got sacked): near universal condemnation.
Based on the response of their fans, they'll only have themselves to blame if they find themselves down the table next season.
No one really knows what’s happened - but even if Liam stayed it’d be a hell of a job just to standstill, they’ve lost over 30 goals from their loan players + Connolly. Possibly going to lose their top scorer as well who has interest from PL and abroad
Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
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Is there another industry where bosses are routinely sacked and replaced after such short periods on such a regular basis? From my limited reading and understanding of the situation, it seems that Liam was on his way to building something at Hull. Yes, they missed out on the playoffs this year, but surely with that experience comes the ability to at least give it another go? Instead, the players have to get used to another new manager, with new ideas and possible uncertainty over their own positions.
The problem (and I genuinely think it IS a problem) is obviously not exclusive to Hull, you see it all the time. What's the average length of a managerial reign – 15 months or something? Absolutely crazy!
The best/worst example is Birmingham. What an absolute fack up they made of getting rid of Eustace in October (having only been appointed in July 2022) when in sixth position and then having FIVE other managers that season! No wonder they went down!
The problem (and I genuinely think it IS a problem) is obviously not exclusive to Hull, you see it all the time. What's the average length of a managerial reign – 15 months or something? Absolutely crazy!
The best/worst example is Birmingham. What an absolute fack up they made of getting rid of Eustace in October (having only been appointed in July 2022) when in sixth position and then having FIVE other managers that season! No wonder they went down!
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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Also, Hughton had arguably done the job he was brought in to do – get the team promoted to the PL – after a tough few seasons (coming back to my point above about the longevity of managers). As you say, it was clear that things were only go in one direction and the right decision (in hindsight!) was made to get rid in that instance. With Rosenior, very possible not.
not only this but sometimes with such little experience. Would any other industry give top jobs at big companies with next to no, or sometimes even no, experience? Think Lampard, Gerrard etc.
Lampard was given the Chelsea job FFS. A bit like giving the keys for a Ferrari* to a 17 year old.
*A mustard yellow one, with bling and modified loud exhaust - so basically souped up by a tasteless chav.
Pevenseagull
Anti-greed coalition
- Jul 20, 2003
- 19,763
Then, after they pranged it, spending a shit ton getting it roadworthy and giving it an even more 'pimp my ride' vibe. And THEN lending it to them saying, please be careful this time.