TomandJerry
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
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Nobby Cybergoat
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I'm still not sure 16% would translate into any seats with our voting system.
And that's assuming they don't pull out. Which by the way, is what Richard Tice's dad should have done.
Pevenseagull
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Machiavelli
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‘Potentially serious impropriety’: Labour questions Johnson’s Venezuela meeting
Former PM’s meeting with President Maduro, in capacity as hedge fund consultant, is under further scrutiny
www.theguardian.com
Oh, but he's so funny, he's just like us, a relatable ordinary guy
clapham_gull
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My take on it is that Labour's lead is not all but somewhat down to the Tories gains in the North self destructing and moving to vote reform.
Those are somewhat lost votes to both major parties, but have negatively affected the Tories more than Labour.
However I'd put money on that 16% won't result in many seats. The best chance the Tories have to cling on is some form of coalition but no other party will touch them with a barge poll.
Machiavelli
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I'd put a large amount of money on them not getting anything like 16%. Between them and the Tories, they've been running on a combined vote of about 33% in the polls for a year now.
Thunder Bolt
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I think they are awarded when the funds clear in the Tory bank account.
LamieRobertson
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Never thought I’d ever agree with Adolf 
Pevenseagull
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Bad day for Teresa May's mate
DUP leader Sir Jeffrey Donaldson quits after sex offence charges
Sir Jeffrey Donaldson is charged with historical sexual offences and has been suspended from the DUP.
www.bbc.co.uk
When isn't that the case?
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If he thinks the Tories are going to lose anyway, he might as well fight for every seat and get as high a percentage vote as possible.
chickens
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I still don’t know which way he’ll go. My fear is a last minute back room deal that the Tories will enact some of Tice’s more batshit policies in return for him pulling the plug on Reform in closely contested seats.
On the other hand, there’s surely only so many times that voters will be prepared to take you seriously if you keep withdrawing your candidates at the 11th hour. Makes a bit of a mockery of the whole electoral process.
Proof that FPTP isn’t immune from the kind of backroom dealing that some use as a criticism of alternative voting systems.
2019 was Labour’s worst GE result since 1935 with 202 seats.
Looking at Betfair odds, the Tories are forecast to win circa 120 seats. Ouch.
The rise of Reform, splitting their vote, I think loses the Tories 50 seats.
With SNP’s halo gone, Starmer’s majority is going to be vast. In 1945 Attlee won 393 out of 640 seats, in 1997 Blair 418 out of 650. In 1997 the LibDems polled 18%, now just below 10%, looks like they could be crushed too.
This could be a Commons record for Labour.
Looking at Betfair odds, the Tories are forecast to win circa 120 seats. Ouch.
The rise of Reform, splitting their vote, I think loses the Tories 50 seats.
With SNP’s halo gone, Starmer’s majority is going to be vast. In 1945 Attlee won 393 out of 640 seats, in 1997 Blair 418 out of 650. In 1997 the LibDems polled 18%, now just below 10%, looks like they could be crushed too.
This could be a Commons record for Labour.
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