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[Politics] Donald Trump 2024



Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
50,207
Goldstone
Serious question. Is this a cut and paste job or do you really live in Texas?

Your location says Brighton?
It's cut and paste, I don't think One Love was trying to pretend otherwise:

 






Zeberdi

Brighton born & bred
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Oct 20, 2022
4,883
Sarah Sanders is a Republican! She's hardly going to slag him off is she.

And why was she having to defend his work ethic in the first place? Obviously because people had noticed he wasn't working much.
She was defending Trump’s ‘‘work ethic’ because she had specifically been asked about the Axios Report (which I quoted above) which looked at how Trump spent his days in the WH (also quoted above).
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,207
Goldstone
She was defending Trump’s ‘‘work ethic’ because she had specifically been asked about the Axios Report (which I quoted above) which looked at how Trump spent his days in the WH (also quoted above).
Well we can all agree that she is a stand up trustworthy woman, and if she says Trump works hard, that's good enough for me.
 


Zeberdi

Brighton born & bred
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Oct 20, 2022
4,883
Which is why I started it with

And another opinion

Sorry thought that was obvious
It was still a great piece
Well we can all agree that she is a stand up trustworthy woman, and if she says Trump works hard, that's good enough for me.
Sarcasm? I honestly find it difficult to tell I’m afraid! 😕 - I wasn’t defending Saunders in any way.
 






Zeberdi

Brighton born & bred
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Oct 20, 2022
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Neither was @Triggaaar . You have misunderstood. He was being facetious. All is good 👍
Thanks - I thought he was but as I said, I find sarcasm hard to translate - I just wasn’t sure if my post about Saunders defending Trump had been misunderstood as me defending her because I thought the sarcasm was directed at me rather than laughing with me - the trials and tribulations of a neurodivergent brain 😂! 👍
 


Molango's visa

Molango's visa
Sep 7, 2007
185
London, UK
Me too
Thanks - I thought he was but as I said, I find sarcasm hard to translate - I just wasn’t sure if my post about Saunders defending Trump had been misunderstood as me defending her because I thought the sarcasm was directed at me rather than laughing with me - the trials and tribulations of a neurodivergent brain 😂! 👍
Me too (neurodivergent). Misunderstandings are a daily occurrence. Luckily on an anonymous forum one can assume the best without fear of actual jeopardy if you have misunderstood and reacted. One can apologise (also easy on an anonymous forum) and move on, whistling surreptitiously and hoping nobody has noticed. Ahem. 😉
 




Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
596
Yep those 6 corporate bankruptcies don't happen on their own.

Out of how many start ups and what do you define as bankruptcies? I can think of 2 successes of the top of my head, The Apprentice TV series or was it 12 seasons? Also his Golf courses. I know his Trump university came a cropper but his truth social has potential which is what it was sold on.
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
7,289
Vilamoura, Portugal
Thanks - I thought he was but as I said, I find sarcasm hard to translate - I just wasn’t sure if my post about Saunders defending Trump had been misunderstood as me defending her because I thought the sarcasm was directed at me rather than laughing with me - the trials and tribulations of a neurodivergent brain 😂! 👍
Sorry to be a little pedantic but you're continually misspelling Sanders. That's very Trumpist🤣 (see "stollen")
 


Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
596
Great post and brilliant narrative of the definition of populism described by Alastair Campbell recently.

1. Populism seeks to exploit problems rather than solving them.

2. Populism seeks to divide the population rather than unite it.

Both, of course, are highly effective distraction techniques for those who only seek money, power and influence through politics rather than a greater good for their electorate and Country.

Mr Trump and Mr Johnson personify this particular definition. And when they are called out, we’re reminded that politicians are all the same so you may as well vote for one with a bit of personality.
First AC or Tony Blairs spin doctor, you don't get to change definitions just to suit your political agenda. I looked it up and its mercifully short(Below).

Populism just means uniting the people against corruption, solutions to this problem are different from left to right but that is standard. You think letting 7 million plus people in in 3 years worth 14 extra congressional seats when redistricting is done is not corruption? How crap are your politics that you need to import voters illegal and otherwise to top up your voter base? The media isn't reporting it and that is also corruption. When you elect politicians to do A but they do the opposite that's corruption. And irony alert, when you you try to change the definition of words to suit your purpose thats corruption.

Trump is trying to unite the people against the establishment, when he left Fulton Jail he drove through poor/black areas and was well received, that's one of the ways he reaches out to different groups. He us not playing the divide and rule tactic of "White men evil".

As for the article you quoted "Sample of one" and Hmmmmmmmmm.


 




Zeberdi

Brighton born & bred
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Oct 20, 2022
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Sorry to be a little pedantic but you're continually misspelling Sanders. That's very Trumpist🤣 (see "stollen")
That’s ok - at least I can spell ‘Buonanotte’ which seems to be a stumbling block for 50% of NSC posters 🤣
 


Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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Populism just means uniting the people against corruption... And irony alert, when you try to change the definition of words to suit your purpose thats corruption.
I thought ‘popularism’ in politics a range of policies that embrace the idea that the ‘elite’ is set against the masses/the ‘people’ - it doesn’t presume corruption of the elite
Trump is trying to unite the people against the establishment, when he left Fulton Jail he drove through poor/black areas and was well received, that's one of the ways he reaches out to different groups.
When was Trump in Fulton? I must have missed that - so many court cases and indictments over the years, it really has been impossible to keep up.😎
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
9,962
On NSC for over two decades...
I see Mr Trump has been given a ten day extension to pay a massively reduced bond of $175 million for the appeal on his fraud case (it was $464 million). Another example of how unfairly he is being treated.
 




US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
3,310
Cleveland, OH
I see Mr Trump has been given a ten day extension to pay a massively reduced bond of $175 million for the appeal on his fraud case (it was $464 million). Another example of how unfairly he is being treated.
Note the bond has been reduced, not the actual penalty. Just the amount he needs to put up prior to appeals being settled.

Haven't yet seen the logic that led the judges to decide this.
 


herecomesaregular

We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Oct 27, 2008
4,227
Still in Brighton
Trump is trying to unite the people against the establishment, when he left Fulton Jail he drove through poor/black areas and was well received, that's one of the ways he reaches out to different groups. He us not playing the divide and rule tactic of "White men evil".

As for the article you quoted "Sample of one" and Hmmmmmmmmm.
Don't like piling on you but this is one of the main things I just don't understand in beliefs about Trump. How is this bloke anti establishment or anti The Man or whatever you'd like to call it? It's like that thing about voting for Bush Jnr because he seemed to be "the sort of bloke you could have a pint with". Is that really your overriding reason for voting for them? Don't get it.
 




bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,095
Dubai




US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
3,310
Cleveland, OH
Don't like piling on you but this is one of the main things I just don't understand in beliefs about Trump. How is this bloke anti establishment or anti The Man or whatever you'd like to call it? It's like that thing about voting for Bush Jnr because he seemed to be "the sort of bloke you could have a pint with". Is that really your overriding reason for voting for them? Don't get it.
The irony being that both Bush Jr and Trump are teetotal.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
11,866
Cumbria
Note the bond has been reduced, not the actual penalty. Just the amount he needs to put up prior to appeals being settled.

Haven't yet seen the logic that led the judges to decide this.
And, as I understand it, paying a bond means you guarantee to pay the whole fine if the appeal doesn't go your way. If his word means anything that is.
 


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