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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



peterward

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And now it really begins.

Margarita Simonyan head of RT and one of 3 biggest propagandists in Russia, who never utters a word unless from Kremlin. (And Mrs just read it, swore in anger)



As @Triggaaar and @Eric the meek cited yesterday, Medvedev didn't just lay claims pinning it on Ukraine without intent or foundation.

This is rerun of the 1999 Moscow apartment bombings play to get pretext to crush Chechnya and mobilise society.

This time it's 🇺🇦 who will be scapegoated.
 




raymondo

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And now it really begins.

Margarita Simonyan head of RT and one of 3 biggest propagandists in Russia, who never utters a word unless from Kremlin. (And Mrs just read it, swore in anger)


It's much easier to launch increased attacks on Ukraine than find terrorists that live in your midst.

Hopefully Rosenberg will call her out with some clever questioning...not that it'll matter much.
 




peterward

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Thanks. So, four random Ukrainians (possibly Moslems?) living in Russia have been rounded up to be scapegoats. Well done FSB - it's not every security force that can find unwilling victims that quickly!
They've released 4 names of Tajikistan citizens but Tajikistan MFA have already said 2 of the 4 alleged perpetrators are there and haven't left the country since November last year?

The real truth may likely never be known, but whether this is an elaborate false flag or ISIS, I don't think that matters tbh.

It suits Russia to spin it as Ukraine behind it, they announced 500k mobilisation 2 days ago, they need to unify society around the flag and against an enemy capable of this atrocity which is wall to wall in Russian news and voila...... its Ukraine. Perfect timing 👌

Chechnya apartment bombings 2
 










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They've released 4 names of Tajikistan citizens but Tajikistan MFA have already said 2 of the 4 alleged perpetrators are there and haven't left the country since November last year?

The real truth may likely never be known, but whether this is an elaborate false flag or ISIS, I don't think that matters tbh.

It suits Russia to spin it as Ukraine behind it, they announced 500k mobilisation 2 days ago, they need to unify society around the flag and against an enemy capable of this atrocity which is wall to wall in Russian news and voila...... its Ukraine. Perfect timing 👌

Chechnya apartment bombings 2
In a way I almost hope it's not ISIS - I would hate to have to think of them being on the same side as us. 'My enemy's enemy is my friend' and all that - but ISIS? :(
 




peterward

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In a way I almost hope it's not ISIS - I would hate to have to think of them being on the same side as us. 'My enemy's enemy is my friend' and all that - but ISIS? :(
If this is true?

Would think it leans more to FSB false flag than ISIS, who are ideologically driven fanatics rather than guns for hire 🤔

 




fly high

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And now it really begins.

Margarita Simonyan head of RT and one of 3 biggest propagandists in Russia, who never utters a word unless from Kremlin. (And Mrs just read it, swore in anger)



As @Triggaaar and @Eric the meek cited yesterday, Medvedev didn't just lay claims pinning it on Ukraine without intent or foundation.

This is rerun of the 1999 Moscow apartment bombings play to get pretext to crush Chechnya and mobilise society.

This time it's 🇺🇦 who will be scapegoated.

The way this seems to be heading I really fear for Ukraine. We can not stand by and watch Russia do to Ukraine what it did in Syria so the great fear is it will inevitably lead to WWIII.
 














peterward

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If this is true?

Would think it leans more to FSB false flag than ISIS, who are ideologically driven fanatics rather than guns for hire 🤔


Translation in English. Just contacted on telegram, offered 1m roubles and sent guns..... don't know how IS work, but I'd guess its more organised than that, and driven by ideology over mecenary actions, still looks more like FSB to me.

And not a word of intelligence prior? But now know they had contacts in Ukraine!

 


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The thing is it wouldn’t surprise me if terrorists did have contacts in Ukraine. These terror organisations likely have contacts in basically every nation on earth. That doesn’t mean it has anything to do with Ukraine.
 


peterward

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The thing is it wouldn’t surprise me if terrorists did have contacts in Ukraine. These terror organisations likely have contacts in basically every nation on earth. That doesn’t mean it has anything to do with Ukraine.
So they're going to waltz through the front line, past Russian security checkpoints, minefields etc 🤔

Of course its possible, but I don't believe it's true.
 




A1X

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So they're going to waltz through the front line, past Russian security checkpoints, minefields etc 🤔

Of course its possible, but I don't believe it's true.
Oh that bit is all horseshit, unquestionably
 


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No idea who that supposed IS terrorist is? but he certainly didn't look happy to be meeting his Virgins.
 


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