I'm sure I read that they (PL clubs) voted on this but didn't get the required majority.
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[Football] The ticking Profit and Sustainability (FFP) timebomb...
- Thread starter Bozza
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Cheers for clarification.
So the whole £100 million boon has now effectively expired.
I don't suppose they have sockboy2 ready to bail them out.
If the figures are to be believed, they are pre bonuses. A 20% bonus would mean a jump from 14th to 11th.
And if we didn’t have goal bonuses etc it’d be even less. But it wasn’t
This.
P&S and FFP are vital to the Albion. Without it petro states, vast hedge funds and mates of warmongering dictators would buy up the rest of the PL clubs resisting. TB isn’t selling, we’d be outgunned as wages spiral, players wouldn’t hang around.
Motogull
Todd Warrior
- Sep 16, 2005
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Or for every £1m over FFP limits in the 3 year period, then 1 league position is dropped.
UEFA’s FFP was fully implemented 9 years ago.
In the period since Abu Dhabi, Leipzig and PSG have somehow ascended to the top of European football. UEFA coefficient ranked 1, 4 and 7. Newcastle were going nowhere fast, then CL football for the first time in 20 years, within months of Saudi Arabia buying them. Villa were shit for years including a recent relegation, now in the top 5.
Where’s the closed shop? They all found means around the rules.
A wild-west would mean German clubs bar Bayern would never compete again, the Albion would fade down the order of things.
In the period since Abu Dhabi, Leipzig and PSG have somehow ascended to the top of European football. UEFA coefficient ranked 1, 4 and 7. Newcastle were going nowhere fast, then CL football for the first time in 20 years, within months of Saudi Arabia buying them. Villa were shit for years including a recent relegation, now in the top 5.
Where’s the closed shop? They all found means around the rules.
A wild-west would mean German clubs bar Bayern would never compete again, the Albion would fade down the order of things.
Neville's Breakfast
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I don’t think Newcastle have found ways around the rules, have they ? As you pointed out in post 305 they have been prevented from over spending by FFP rules. What they have done is increased spending (by a lot less than they could afford without FFP) and hired a very good manager. How have Villa got around the rules ? I think I’m agreeing with you btw. The main voices in favour of a no FFP Wild West are players and associated hangers on.
Lucky for us a billionaire has chucked over £300m into our club
Neville's Breakfast
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Indeed. Like most things in football this is spun by fans of whichever club in exactly the way they wish. Brighton are no exception.
- Oct 20, 2022
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more like half a billion!
I meant to say with (NUFC] and around the rules (Abu Dhabi and PSG).
But early days. NUFC may reap commercial income from the Middle East in excess of true arm‘s length market value of such contracts …. UEFA have explicit laws within FFP covering that.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
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Can someone put me right here. At the moment I feel like there is an elephant in the room in the shape of Man City. How can the premier league be dishing out points dedications etc while City are still avoiding their investigations etc.
One rule for the elite?
One rule for the elite?
Neville's Breakfast
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No, more chance of a successful prosecution of Everton and Forest because they have many fewer charges leveled against them. Cases against other clubs will proceed when ready.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Citeh won’t be avoiding anything - they are charged with something like 115 breaches of FFP regulations and could face a rather hefty number of points deduction- Everton were only charged with 1 and ended up (so far) with 6 - there is another charge ongoing for 2023 which could result in another 10->6 point reduction.
The trial with Citeh is expected to be in late Autumn - it’s just taking longer than other Clubs because of the number of breaches, the complexity of record-keep/accounting and the fact they were refusing to cooperate willingly cf to eg Everton.
If Pep suddenly follows Klopp out the EPL door in the summer, you can be sure he’s had an insight into how much shite will be hitting the fan in the Autumn
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
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Has there case with the premier league not been going on for a few years? Or wa that a separate set of of cases? Or with UEFA?Citeh won’t be avoiding anything - they are charged with something like 115 breaches of FFP regulations and could face a rather hefty number of points deduction- Everton were only charged with 1 and ended up (so far) with 6 - there is another charge ongoing for 2023 which could result in another 10->6 point reduction.
The trial with Citeh is expected to be in late Autumn - it’s just taking longer than other Clubs because of the number of breaches, the complexity of record-keep/accounting and the fact they were refusing to cooperate willingly cf to eg Everton.
If Pep suddenly follows Klopp out the EPL door in the summer, you can be sure he’s had an insight into how much shite will be hitting the fan in the Autumn
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Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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Is it wrong to want the PL to be a proper competition where 20 teams have a reasonable chance to do well and that can only be achieved by levelling the amount of money spent.
It kind of is by virtue of the fact English football has never been home to an 'everyone gets a prize' hierarchy.
Sure previously it hadn't been a home to sports washing dictatorships either.
But hindsight suggests that's was always going to be the end result over 'cheer up Sheffield Utd you might win it, next season'.