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[Politics] Donald Trump 2024
- Thread starter Zeberdi
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- Nov 11, 2009
- 11,366
I will always talk straight. It that offends you, I apologise in advance.
You are either a fool imho, a person in denial who simply refuses to accept reality, or a racist/fascist apologist.
I'm well reasoned, not demented, 2nd account Trump fanboy, you are for trying to defend and promote the indefensible.
"leftist rags"? And there you were saying don't use "jargon or rhetoric"
They are the actual quotes and actual actions of a racist you openly fawn over, lie for and seek to justify and promote.
The quote in the NYT is in 100s of others including AP, that in the 70s The trump family policy was "no blacks" in properties and the FBI investigated it.
Donald Trump's father 'told staff' to 'get rid of blacks' when running property firm with his son, FBI dossier claims
Claims in newly released 389-page FBI dossier, relating to when Donald Trump was president of the family property company, risk causing US President fresh embarrassment, while fuelling his anger at US intelligence agencies
www.independent.co.uk
The vox article highlights numerous accounts of Trump racist remarks/actions over decades.
Did he do those things or say them?
Not "whatabout Biden", Not "its a rag", not "here is my narrative", did Donald Trump do/say them?
You think you can just will it away by throwing out a bit more bullshit, or create some new narrative to justify it to yourself as "nothing to see here?
The quote you made above is
racist.To type cast a whole continent "Asia/Africa" as "destroying our country" is racist all day every day. Try and spin any slant, everything you wrote as his reasons or context are entirely false, and are simply made up by you to seek to justify it to yourself. Your disinformation isn't going to work.
You either haven't got a clue what racism is, or you are a willing apologist for it.
African dentists paying taxes, Asian bankers paying taxes are not destroying anything at all, and nor is every immigrant from either "jails, prisons, mental assylum, terrorists" and yet Trump makes absolute race baiting statements that are unequivocally racist.
Racist attacks increased by 150% during Trumps term in office.
This is what he said to Mitch McConnel about his Chinese descendent wife Elaine Chao.
"He has a DEATH WISH. Must immediately seek help and advise from his China loving wife, Coco Chow!”
Coco Chow? Really.
What of this? Come and tell us all of your made up nonsense justification
Here are the ACTUAL words of Trump.
[to supporters in NH Dec 2023, referring to immigrants - notice similarities to latest rant?]
“They’re poisoning the blood of our country, that’s what they’ve done. They’ve poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They’re coming into our country, from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. Nobody’s even looking at it.”
You know someone else made quotes about “poisoning the blood" of Germanic Aryans, in a book called “Mein Kampf,” in 1925.
Are you racist? White supremacist? Or just a racist/fascist apologist?
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Crawley Dingo
Political thread tourist.
- Mar 31, 2022
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Biden refers to black man as boy, skip to 4.40.
Biden calls black kids roaches(Cockroaches are rumoured to come to North America on slave ships)
Biden N word.
"We Don't Need Any More Nigger Big Shots" Says Joe Biden
Joe Biden once said the dreaded "N-word" quoting someone else. The very thing that Leftists scream is "racist." ⚠️ Order your _*Let’s Go Brandon!*_ shirt here: https://TeeSpring.com/lets_go-brandon ⚠️
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Hilary calling urban gangs "super predators".
If De zerbi and Peter Ward where anything other than political hacks joining in a smear campaign there would be just as much outrage.
He was being facetious.I don’t think anyone who has read the Israel/Hamas thread could possibly accuse me of lacking independence of thought on NSC or being influenced by the MSM (the very opposite!) more likely CD will accuse me of generating fake news content on social media platforms to turn gullible unsuspecting innocents against DT.
Biden refers to black man as boy, skip to 4.40.
Biden calls black kids roaches(Cockroaches are rumoured to come to North America on slave ships)
Biden N word.
"We Don't Need Any More Nigger Big Shots" Says Joe Biden
Joe Biden once said the dreaded "N-word" quoting someone else. The very thing that Leftists scream is "racist." ⚠️ Order your _*Let’s Go Brandon!*_ shirt here: https://TeeSpring.com/lets_go-brandon ⚠️
Hilary calling urban gangs "super predators".
If De zerbi and Peter Ward where anything other than political hacks joining in a smear campaign there would be just as much outrage.
If that's all you have, you are a very, very sad man. Honestly
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So was I and self-deprecating - hence the laughing emoji
- Oct 20, 2022
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I don’t think De Zerbi is interested in your disillusioned ramblings tbh
The internet can be so confusing.
- Oct 20, 2022
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I know Basil, I knowThe internet can be so confusing.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
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Incredible to think someone can look at the evidence for each person and conclude that Trump is the less racist.If that's all you have, you are a very, very sad man. Honestly
The world in which we live in, I suppose.
Anyway back to chatting to the badger, maybe we'll tackle post-impressionism this morning.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 11,366
Biden refers to black man as boy, skip to 4.40.
Biden calls black kids roaches(Cockroaches are rumoured to come to North America on slave ships)
Biden N word.
"We Don't Need Any More Nigger Big Shots" Says Joe Biden
Joe Biden once said the dreaded "N-word" quoting someone else. The very thing that Leftists scream is "racist." ⚠️ Order your _*Let’s Go Brandon!*_ shirt here: https://TeeSpring.com/lets_go-brandon ⚠️
Hilary calling urban gangs "super predators".
If De zerbi and Peter Ward where anything other than political hacks joining in a smear campaign there would be just as much outrage.
Are you really going to ignore all of the Trump actual racist remarks and all of the proof without any reply like "poisoning the blood", the same quote made by Adolf Hitler, and instead offer up some ridiculous attempt at a smear on Biden from some lunatic fringe websites?
Lets make a deal, when I fully debunk your Biden is a racist bullshit, you will stand tall and actually answer with facts, why you support and promote an actual racist Donald Trump, and go through each of the claims I made, and show, with facts and evidence how they are wrong and how he isnt actually racist, and by definition you are not actually an apologist for racism, as you have claimed at face value..... and of course with your own rules of no jargon or rhetoric - Deal?
I will tell you this is advance, that what Trump does is what Putin does and is straight out of George Orwell 1984, to turn everything upside down and accuse your opponents of that which you are guilty of. Its actually a defined psycological tactic, as some, will be stupid enough to believe, and others will get confused at competing claims or assume some sort of 50/50 equivalence where none exists.... Thats why Ukraine are Nazis and Fascists, why the west attacks Russia, Why Russia never attacks civilians and Ukraine does it too themselves, its exactly the same tactic that Trump deploys against "racist Biden" and "the Biden crime family". Its called "Darvo" google it.
So youve posted 3 "Whatabout Biden" videos as an answer to Trump racism, and why in Darvo land it is actually Biden who is the racist.
Lets start with the N word video link (and surely you realise how stupid this makes you look?) when Biden says referencing the quote of another in a debate in the Senate enquiry in 1985, of course you show no context, just a headline.
So here is the bit thats missing.
Biden was questioning then-Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights William Reynolds, in the Senate over his nomination by Ronald Reagan to be promoted to Associate Attorney General.
Referring to a court case in which a plan in Louisiana was struck down, Biden said “As to the Governor, the Court concluded, quote: ‘The Governor’s opposition to the Nunez plan was predicated in significant part on his delineation of a majority black district centered in Orleans Parish.'”
Biden added “And in confidential portions of your staff memo, they brought to your attention the allegation that an important legislator in defeating the Nunez plan in the basement said, And I quote: ‘We already have a n****r mayor; we don’t need another n****r big-shot.'”
Now your second video the "corn pop" story video thats cut, but just puts in at the end "I learned about roaches", this was made in Summer 2020. You have implied that Biden called black children roaches (as no doubt thats what you were told, used zero discerment on what you were told and just parroted it without any actual investigation?)
Well here is the full video
And in this video Biden is talking about the time when he was the first white person, in the Civil rights days of US apartheid, to come to the predominently black community, to learn about their struggles and he volunteered as lifeguard at the pool where he is speaking in the video. He then went on to be one of the leading Black Civil rights campaigners.
So here is the reality of the roaches statement.
When Biden started participating in civil rights events and campaigned in the projects and Biden was a stranger to that world, he got some advice from a black campaigner and still friend today called "Richard 'mouse' Smith",
Smith went with Biden as he campaigned door to door whilst also serving as a civil rights ambassador and as a bodyguard for Biden.
Richard Smith says he told Biden, in the story Biden cites in Video, “If you sit on a couch and a spring digs into your butt, don’t move. If a roach climbs on your shirt sleeves, keep talking. If a mouse comes over your feet, don’t move. If you get offered Kool-Aid in an old mayonnaise jar, drink it.”
Biden’s quote was about what he learned from Smith and other black residents while he working as a lifeguard and a civil rights campaigner. Have a look what else Richard Smith says about Biden, and come back again and confirm you think this video is racist.
Link was paywalled, so how kind of me, I get you a link to help you de program! https://www.smry.ai/proxy?url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/at-a-wilmington-pool-pranks-nicknames-and-the-racial-education-of-joe-biden/2019/07/12/29fcc8fc-a191-11e9-b732-41a79c2551bf_story.html
And the first Biden one (in the presentation by a demented quack). This is the full quote where, with context you will then tell us which bit this black civil rights campaigner is using to slander or victimise a black person because of their skin colour?
"You got a hell of a new governor in Wes Moore. He’s the real deal and the boy looks like he can still play, He’s got some guns on him.”
Please do take your time with your defence of Trumps many racist quotes action, I look forward to your factual, evidence based showing how he isnt a racist after all, how his blood poisoning rant taken from Meine kampf is all a big mistake, and how you are not both a spreader or disinformation and facsist/racist apologist.
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Biden refers to black man as boy, skip to 4.40.
Biden calls black kids roaches(Cockroaches are rumoured to come to North America on slave ships)
Biden N word.
"We Don't Need Any More Nigger Big Shots" Says Joe Biden
Joe Biden once said the dreaded "N-word" quoting someone else. The very thing that Leftists scream is "racist." ⚠️ Order your _*Let’s Go Brandon!*_ shirt here: https://TeeSpring.com/lets_go-brandon ⚠️
Hilary calling urban gangs "super predators".
If De zerbi and Peter Ward where anything other than political hacks joining in a smear campaign there would be just as much outrage.
Refers to Black Man as 'Boy'. Can't quite work out how that is overtly racist unless you are saying he has never called a younger than him white man 'boy'. In fact I believe he has referred to himself as a 'white boy'. Chap I work with is 62 and refers to his 'girlfriend'. What's that in your terms?
Calls black kids roaches? I've listened to that twice - can't work out where he actually says black kids are roaches?
'N-word'. You do realise he is quoting from a report about discrimination which uses this quote as an example?
Quite sad really. And nor is this 'half a dozen' as promised.
Crawley Dingo
Political thread tourist.
- Mar 31, 2022
- 596
Nah TLDR, 3 paragraphs and start with the article from the NY Times thats behind a paywall and prove your not just posting links and not reading them again.
That's probably the longest example (on NSC) of talking to the cat I have every read. Even longer than when someone took the time to explain to Das Reich that taking the knee did not necessarily mean you are a 'Trained Marxist'.
Top work, though.
Crawley Dingo
Political thread tourist.
- Mar 31, 2022
- 596
In the US calling a black man boy infers they are not a man, a slave and is highly offensive.
Biden saying if you don't vote for me you aint black.
This one has the roaches references plus multiple other racist gaffs.
You mean you can't be arsed to read something because it might conflict (or even change) your views. So, if your view is formed from only reading things that are shorter than @Peter Ward has supplied for you - you're not really getting a rounded or full picture are you? You're just forming your opinion from soundbites and headlines.
No wonder you come across as rather delusional.
He didn't call him 'Boy' in a pejorative way though did he. He said 'that boy', then changed it to 'that man' - ie: an older version. A young man is a boy.
Crawley Dingo
Political thread tourist.
- Mar 31, 2022
- 596
Nope, I answered him and Zeberdi yesterday taking 20 minutes to read and respond. I am not prepared to waste my time on someone who is abusive, derogatory, arrogant, demanding ,doesn't appear to read the links he posts, doesn't acknowlege any point. TBH I am thinking about just blocking him. I'm here to read post about football primarily, I don't mind spending time on politics but 1 post gets 3 responses, if i respond to 3 its then 6 or 9 and I'm not dedicating time to 2,000 word tracts that are crass and derogatory.
Read into it what you want, thats the problem of banning most right-wingers, I'm not prepared to take up the slack as theres few others addressing points. My times worth more to me. Expect to be "ignored", or limited responses or blocked. End of.
To claim and proof or refute Trump as a racist or not shouldn't take more than a few links or paragraphs, its just a repeat of the Southern Strategy to smear opponents.
That's not what you said though. You just dismissively said "Nah TLDR"