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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



beorhthelm

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aside maybe isolated incidents, reservists running out of ammo more likely to surrender than go waving shovels around.
 




The Clamp

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aside maybe isolated incidents, reservists running out of ammo more likely to surrender than go waving shovels around.
Absolutely. Doesn’t mean they haven’t been told by their their superiors to use them, though.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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But I imagine the British troops had rifles and ammunition, and used those too. If we only had bayonets I imagine we'd have lost.
Sure, but it was bayonets that had to be used to finish the job - and to literally put the shits up the young Argentine conscripts suddenly confrnted by cold steel coming at them from close quarters.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Sure, but it was bayonets that had to be used to finish the job - and to literally put the shits up the young Argentine conscripts suddenly confrnted by cold steel coming at them from close quarters.
Yep. That's different from what's being reported in Ukraine.
 


sparkie

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Looks like Putin has been desperately trying ( but not quite succeeding yet ) to start another front in his war in either Serbia/Kosovo, Moldova or Georgia.
 








rippleman

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Presumably the Wagner senior shitheads retain loaded guns to shoot their 'troops' should they decline to charge
According to their nutjob of a leader, Wagner are rapidly running out of ammo and Moscow is failing to re-supply them. Paranoia is now setting in amongst the Wagner fascists (which is nice)

 




NooBHA

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They are not totally running out of ammunition. The Russian Bazztards just today shot an unarmed Ukrainian Prisoner in the head and then posted it on line. They are a f#cking barbaric nation

 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
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They are not totally running out of ammunition. The Russian Bazztards just today shot an unarmed Ukrainian Prisoner in the head and then posted it on line. They are a f#cking barbaric nation


I heard of what happened, I won't watch. This is yet another war crime.
 






peterward

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According to their nutjob of a leader, Wagner are rapidly running out of ammo and Moscow is failing to re-supply them. Paranoia is now setting in amongst the Wagner fascists (which is nice)

Prigorzhin isnt going to live long imho, brazenly challenging Kremlin/MOD/security services, its happened on numerus occasions.... he may be of some use right now but he and his rent a fascist mob are too much of a risk to Putin.

Expect he will be falling out of a window at some point
 


beorhthelm

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midwit theory: maybe Putin is setting up Wagner to take a fall, when they fail can blame months of conflict on them, then bring it to some close.
 


Weststander

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After 11 months of waging illegal war, Russia had lost half of its entire tank stocks. That’s from their entire defences, threats and conflicts from Vladivostock to Murmansk. 1,795 tanks, 6,000 specialist crew lost.

Desperate times call for Heath-Robinson use of 1945 to 1959 Soviet warship turrets, welded to vehicles.

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driddles

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After 11 months of waging illegal war, Russia had lost half of its entire tank stocks. That’s from their entire defences, threats and conflicts from Vladivostock to Murmansk. 1,795 tanks, 6,000 specialist crew lost.

Desperate times call for Heath-Robinson use of 1945 to 1959 Soviet warship turrets, welded to vehicles.

A lot of Ukrainians are going to die from that tank...... die laughing anyway. When I was about 5 I made a tank from an empty shoebox and the centre of a toilet roll and it looked just like that.
 




peterward

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midwit theory: maybe Putin is setting up Wagner to take a fall, when they fail can blame months of conflict on them, then bring it to some close.
that has been mooted. ultimately Putin and his propaganda machine will try and pin the blame on anyone except Putin.

Wagner fails, Prigorzhin has an "accident" then who will push back on Putins lies.

Rather more alarmingly on todays ukrainian news channels is a merchant ship that was known to be carrying shed loads of weapons, was allowed through the bosphorus in the early hours by Turkey. Erdogan like Orban is a duplicitous snake.
 
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Triggaaar

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A lot of Ukrainians are going to die from that tank...... die laughing anyway. When I was about 5 I made a tank from an empty shoebox and the centre of a toilet roll and it looked just like that.
You probably put more thought and care into its construction too
 






GT49er

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Prigorzhin isnt going to live long imho, brazenly challenging Kremlin/MOD/security services, its happened on numerus occasions.... he may be of some use right now but he and his rent a fascist mob are too much of a risk to Putin.

Expect he will be falling out of a window at some point
Funny, isn't it? The only fascists found in Ukraine have been paid for, fighting on Putin's side.

Well, not funny at all really - if only our spooks could do better then Putin's and gradually re-educate the older Russians, who still believe that every turd the government offers them actually tastes quite nice and is really nutricious.
 


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