[News] School strikes

LamieRobertson said:

“The money is there” ..I think there’s a discussion point in itself….and as stated earlier definition of what is considered “fair”
…still if I suggests this I’m a f ing moron.

I’ll leave you all to it

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LamieRobertson said:

“The money is there” ..I think there’s a discussion point in itself….and as stated earlier definition of what is considered “fair”
…still if I suggests this I’m a f ing moron.

I’ll leave you all to it

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spongy said:

It's pissed me right off.

I have to go to work otherwise I lose my flat that I've worked really f***ing hard for.

I haven't had a pay rise in 8 years either.

My workload is ever increasing and becoming more stressful.

I'm feeling the pinch as much as anyone else.

Now I have to use 4 of my 20 days holiday a year (mandatory 3days at xmas so now I potentially only have 13 days I can take off this year)
to cover the fact as I can't afford nursery or extra childcare.

Mucking Fagic.

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Brian Fantana said:

Personally, I don't agree with teachers striking. The current crop of kids have already missed so much learning because of school Covid closures that it seems unfair to disadvantage them once more.

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Greenbag50 said:

I love the debate this has generated. Exactly why I started the thread.
Shows it is extremely difficult (and I’d argue) almost impossible, to balance the needs/responsibilities of the state, taxation levels, educating our future workforce etc who gets what slice of the pie whilst keeping economy productive and competitive for the future.

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Mike Small said:

The elite, the Tories, the powerful slice's get bigger and bigger every single f***ing time. They're getting bigger as I type this. I'm sure you're not across the national finance situation. They frame it like this to convince people like you that they need to strike a balance. It allowed Osborn and co to run amok with austerity. As another poster said, they can find money if it's in their interests. Funding the public sector properly/well isn't in their interest.

Look up not down.

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spongy said:

It's pissed me right off.

I have to go to work otherwise I lose my flat that I've worked really f***ing hard for.

I haven't had a pay rise in 8 years either.

My workload is ever increasing and becoming more stressful.

I'm feeling the pinch as much as anyone else.

Now I have to use 4 of my 20 days holiday a year (mandatory 3days at xmas so now I potentially only have 13 days I can take off this year)
to cover the fact as I can't afford nursery or extra childcare.

Mucking Fagic.

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spongy said:

It's pissed me right off.

I have to go to work otherwise I lose my flat that I've worked really f***ing hard for.

I haven't had a pay rise in 8 years either.

My workload is ever increasing and becoming more stressful.

I'm feeling the pinch as much as anyone else.

Now I have to use 4 of my 20 days holiday a year (mandatory 3days at xmas so now I potentially only have 13 days I can take off this year)
to cover the fact as I can't afford nursery or extra childcare.

Mucking Fagic.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Are you on drugs?

Can I have some?

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cloud said:

Not on drugs. Grammar schools receive the lowest funding in the country and parents are reluctantly left to make up the difference. Begging letters at least once a week, and intimidation by teachers and staff. Children humiliated for taking time off with broken leg as it affects the school's targets.

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Brian Fantana said:

I clearly caused a bit of a stir with my original post on this thread, so I may as well go in for round 2. I was listening to a debate on the radio about this topic this morning and one of the callers was a teacher from Scotland, who was speaking from the picket line. One of her main gripes was that teachers do a lot of 'unseen' hours, i.e. they come in before school starts to prep, stay later than the official school day and often end up bringing work home with them too. All of those points are absolutely fair in my book - no disputing AT ALL that teachers go above and beyond.

However, and here's the bit I'll probably get flamed for, there are COUNTLESS other jobs where the same is true, i.e. people work well beyond their contracted hours, often bringing work home with them, checking emails in the evening etc. I know it shouldn't be a race to the bottom, but there are a lot of teachers who I've seen/heard being interviewed who give the opinion that their profession is the only one with these added pressures and burdens. That point alone doesn't do wonders for the PR of what they're doing - in my view, anyway.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

Really? That's terrible. And some of it sounds illegal. Equality laws mean that some of the issues in your list are illegal and should be fought.

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cloud said:

Not on drugs. Grammar schools receive the lowest funding in the country and parents are reluctantly left to make up the difference. Begging letters at least once a week, and intimidation by teachers and staff. Children humiliated for taking time off with broken leg as it affects the school's targets.

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Brian Fantana said:

I clearly caused a bit of a stir with my original post on this thread, so I may as well go in for round 2. I was listening to a debate on the radio about this topic this morning and one of the callers was a teacher from Scotland, who was speaking from the picket line. One of her main gripes was that teachers do a lot of 'unseen' hours, i.e. they come in before school starts to prep, stay later than the official school day and often end up bringing work home with them too. All of those points are absolutely fair in my book - no disputing AT ALL that teachers go above and beyond.

However, and here's the bit I'll probably get flamed for, there are COUNTLESS other jobs where the same is true, i.e. people work well beyond their contracted hours, often bringing work home with them, checking emails in the evening etc. I know it shouldn't be a race to the bottom, but there are a lot of teachers who I've seen/heard being interviewed who give the opinion that their profession is the only one with these added pressures and burdens. That point alone doesn't do wonders for the PR of what they're doing - in my view, anyway.

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Normal Rob said:

The point is that teachers are vital for the education system that serves our children and readys them for the life ahead. The poor pay and horrific conditions mean that there is not enough of them, and numbers are falling.

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Berty23 said:

Where has a single teacher claimed they are the only occupation who do that.

My wife went to a meeting about strikes last night and came back in tears not sure what to do. The point that hurts her most is any pay rise is from existing budget. So they might get paid more but something else goes. E.g. Specialist support for specific children. A teaching assistant, counselling etc etc.

Teachers are trained to teach. Becoming a social workers takes years of training and yet here we are with teachers being expected to do the job of social workers and teachers.

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