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GT49er

GT49er

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Clive Walker said:
don't care, want everton to go down. they have been in the EPL for so long and done relatively nothing of note. They seem to have scrapped around the bottom/mid point for so long that its only fair that a better run club gets a chance to show what they can do.
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Bit harsh - when English teams wew banned from Euroe in the 1980s Everton and Liverpool were swapping the Leadue title almost every season - but because of the ban Everton never really got the same europea impetus and experience rthat the likes of Liverpool, United and Chelski have had - and since then they have never got back to being the 'big club' they used to be.
dolphins said:
Saw somewhere yesterday that they were last relegated 72 years ago!! It's about time they experienced it again...
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Rather it was Arsenal - they've been hanging around even longer - and the b******s have never even won promotion either! Doesn't seem much chance at the moment though ......................... :(
 




Clive Walker

Clive Walker

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Jul 5, 2011
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GT49er said:
Bit harsh - when English teams wew banned from Euroe in the 1980s Everton and Liverpool were swapping the Leadue title almost every season - but because of the ban Everton never really got the same europea impetus and experience rthat the likes of Liverpool, United and Chelski have had - and since then they have never got back to being the 'big club' they used to be.

Rather it was Arsenal - they've been hanging around even longer - and the b******s have never even won promotion either! Doesn't seem much chance at the moment though ......................... :(
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since the EPL inception they have averaged a final position of 10th.

enough is enough.
 


















Nobby

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Cowfold Seagull said:
Ha very good!

Joking apart though perhaps Dyche is exactly the man they need to dig them out of this hole on the pitch. If he can keep them up this season and buy them a bit of time that will be a job well done.

Sean Dyche, fire fighter supremo.
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Just taken a look at his record.
Burnley promotion 2013-14 then straight back down
Burnley promotion again 2015-16 and kept them up for five seasons, three relegation scraps and then relegation 2021-22.

So a fire fighter with Burnley but I would argue that he's not one of the Allardyce type guys who come in at the last minute and try to save a new club from relegation.

But whatever, a big call from the Everton Board, who haven't proved very successful with big calls!!
 


beorhthelm

beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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GT49er said:
Bit harsh - when English teams wew banned from Euroe in the 1980s Everton and Liverpool were swapping the Leadue title almost every season - but because of the ban Everton never really got the same europea impetus and experience rthat the likes of Liverpool, United and Chelski have had - and since then they have never got back to being the 'big club' they used to be.

Rather it was Arsenal - they've been hanging around even longer - and the b******s have never even won promotion either! Doesn't seem much chance at the moment though ......................... :(
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??? why did the ban affect Everton and not Liverpool, Arsenal, ManU etc (Chelsea didnt really come into things until 00's).
 


GT49er

GT49er

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beorhthelm said:
??? why did the ban affect Everton and not Liverpool, Arsenal, ManU etc (Chelsea didnt really come into things until 00's).
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Liverpool and United already had the experience, the status and the European reputations. Take your point re: Chelsea - they came along later and bought their way in. Everton were hard hit by the ban though - it really came at exactly the wrong time for them.
 




Easy 10

Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Everton are FIVE POINTS worse off than they were at this point last season, when they stayed up by the width of a Rizler thanks to a feeble collapse by Palace at (not very) Goodison in the penultimate game, the useless twunts.

Now they have no Richarlison, the one player with an x-factor who could occasionally bail them out. The goose is in the oven at 180 degrees, and crisping up nicely along with the tatties. They are absolutely f***ed.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Nobby said:
Just taken a look at his record.
Burnley promotion 2013-14 then straight back down
Burnley promotion again 2015-16 and kept them up for five seasons, three relegation scraps and then relegation 2021-22.

So a fire fighter with Burnley but I would argue that he's not one of the Allardyce type guys who come in at the last minute and try to save a new club from relegation.

But whatever, a big call from the Everton Board, who haven't proved very successful with big calls!!
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All these guys (Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Southgate) keep getting a free pass into management. It's getting a bit pathetic now :lol:
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Cheeky Monkey said:
Doesn’t the PL need clubs like Everton though?
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No. The Premier league is better off with well run forward looking ambitious clubs not basket cases hankering back to now unobtainable past glories.
 














Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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It seems inevitable to me that Everton will get relegated. This has been coming for decades.

They were once part of a Big 5 with Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool and Man Utd but have watched while Chelsea and Man City ousted them to create The Big 6. That should have been a warning but - no - they carried on in the Everton way, with David Moyes somehow papering over the cracks.

Champions League riches have ensured the Big 6 remain the Big 6 but the financial downfall of former giants like Sheff Wed, Sunderland, Derby have forced chairman of other clubs to adopt a smarter business model. Those clubs have gone on to leapfrog Everton - Brighton, Brentford are light years ahead of them.

However, other some other clubs are in the same boat in this regard (West Ham, Leicester) and whilst they've all spent big money on average players they do at least have some quality in outfield positions. Everton, however, have no money and very little quality upfront.

This is entirely the fault of the board - they are dinosaurs. God knows how they are going to pay for their new stadium.

As for Frank Lampard, he is not as smart as he thinks he is. The standard of Prem managers is incredibly high, he is trying to blag a living like a modern-day Pardew. His level is Championship manager.
 




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