Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Reckon that as a by-product of playing at this level we're just going to have to resign ourselves to a similar kind of situation arising on a more regular basis than previously
GhandiYou'll never guess who I had in my cab earlier
Yep. I'm right there. I do think we need to get a relatively experience do a job now player in. I'm hoping we get the attacking equivalent of the Cucu / Perv switcheroo.Anyone else moved onto the stage of feeling excited about who we might sign to replace him? I reckon RDZ would prefer someone quicker than Trossard up there.
Holding on to a player who wanted to go was precisely what Southampton did with Virgil Van Dijk. He was longish term injured as well at the time from what I remember. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him going nowhere this window.My thoughts.
I can definitely see a situation where Tony is prepared to hold onto a player not playing while he loses value. Remember, every member of the squad will be looking at this to see what the clubs resolve is like.
It's far from certain Leo never plays for us again. It's possible a Villa type club comes in for him late in the window, but I reckon they'll be looking at their other options first, meaning it would likely be quite late in the window.
But it's just as likely there's no bid, temp or perm, that we're willing to entertain. In that circumstance, Leo has not yet crossed any uncross-able lines, but could find there's an almighty battle for a place with younger players stepping in and performing up front.
I understand him wanting a CL move too. Which is all the more odd. Because all he had to do was wait out another few months, playfully in a good team that's in form and he would have waltzed out to a CL club in the summer with applause ringing in his ears. All he had to do was not be a dickhead for 5 months. It seems he couldn't manage it.Well this is sad isn't it.
Trossard has been brilliant for us. At the age of 28 it doesn't surprise me that he wants a move, it's probably his last chance of being wanted by UCL football teams.
I find the whole forcing a transfer thing very odd. It's not like Brighton don't consider offers and they can't make clubs bid. It seems like there is a club bidding, but the price is too low.
But releasing statements to media doesn't reflect well on the player and could affect whether other clubs want him. Why take the guy who is going to cause loads of problems?
I get that the statement is in reaction to RDZ comments - I'm not sure that the club will be particularly happy with those either as it makes a price lower.
In general I agree with what RDZ is doing though - work your f***ing bollocks off lads, high intensity at all times... or get out.
Shouldn't think so. Presumably this is from the coach's sit-down with the written press after the televised press conference. I assume that's how it works with Albion. Usually, managers speak to the TV/radio. The newspaper journalists sit in on that. Then the boss has separate sessions with the daily papers and the Sunday papers.Just what was needed. Would think PB put that together for him.
How do you think we sign players ? We spent at least a year courting Alexis MacAllisterCall me old fashioned, but if you sign a contract, you should stick to it, and not get your agent to offer you around for a better contract elsewhere.
Maybe not the plan, but in being dealt what looked like a shit hand, the club couldn't have played it better and came out with £80M of Chelsea's money, Pervis Estupinan and Roberto De Zerbi, even the Colwill loan that I was not too impressed with has turned out to have been very useful too.Bloom sanctions decisions but the decisions are made by other people.
People need to stop assuming that bloom uses his poker playing skills to his advantage on every transfer matter. The weird pedestal that people have created for him is false unless you think losing player of the season and entire coaching team was blooms plan all along.
Only he and the club know i suppose. But the psychology is so weird.I understand him wanting a CL move too. Which is all the more odd. Because all he had to do was wait out another few months, playfully in a good team that's in form and he would have waltzed out to a CL club in the summer with applause ringing in his ears. All he had to do was not be a dickhead for 5 months. It seems he couldn't manage it.
Part of me also wonders whether his heads gone at the emergence of Mitoma and Ferguson.
A lot of speculation around LT but he's courted controversy from the word go with comments from his agent like 'he's using Albion as a stepping stone to bigger clubs'. I don't have a problem with that however I think there are ways of doing it without alienating yourself from the club and fans. I'm not sure Tross hasn't peaked a bit later than he hoped (in his contract and career). Put simply the club aren't just going to give him away, it's business sense and I'm happy without knowing the full details to believe Tony and Paul are standing firm on this. I'd like to see him playing positively until he inevitably leaves however, I don't want to see the likes of clubs such as money bags Newcastle picking him up for nothing. As an aside I've never warmed to Tross much as he's always appeared to think he was better than Brighton, just a feeling on that without too much tangible evidence.
Player with poor attitude and not giving his all at training joins atleti? Not sure that's a good fitI have no issue with Tross going now, if the money's ok.
I suspect the issue is that the agent isn't able to convince Spurs/Atleti to come up with a decent enough offer.
Trying to force Tony to accept a lowball offer, is never going to work.
He also saidLove this rather hopeful (I thought) quote from RDZ though - and what some of us have been saying about the media and chat forums having a field day and giving it more significance because of the window, rings true and you can totally see RDZ having an emotional coaching style even by watching him in the dugout.
“De Zerbi said "problems" such as that currently involving Trossard were fairly commonplace.
He added: "I think we're giving too much importance to something that is normally happening in the dressing rooms of every club in the world.
"I was a player and a lot of times I had these kinds of problems and maybe through this happening the relationship later on will be much stronger, but I'm working in this way.”
I understand him wanting a CL move too. Which is all the more odd. Because all he had to do was wait out another few months, playfully in a good team that's in form and he would have waltzed out to a CL club in the summer with applause ringing in his ears. All he had to do was not be a dickhead for 5 months. It seems he couldn't manage it.
Part of me also wonders whether his heads gone at the emergence of Mitoma and Ferguson.
Not sure what to think here, but, I'm defo on RDZ side. I do not like players who throw tantrums when it doesn't go their way. Shame, I really liked Trossard. We are absolutely fine without him though, weaker yes, but fine. Buzzing to see the new Argie. If he goes to Chelsea, he will get dogs abuse, and rightly so.
If any player started acting like a petulant child, I'd be in the f*** off camp.
Purvis said similar in an interview.How do you think we sign players ? We spent at least a year courting Alexis MacAllister
I understand him wanting a CL move too. Which is all the more odd. Because all he had to do was wait out another few months, playfully in a good team that's in form and he would have waltzed out to a CL club in the summer with applause ringing in his ears. All he had to do was not be a dickhead for 5 months. It seems he couldn't manage it.
Part of me also wonders whether his heads gone at the emergence of Mitoma and Ferguson.