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[Football] Potter [NOT] at Chelsea
- Thread starter Bozza
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To be fair it was starting to click. His last 10 games contained a lot of goals - compared to RDZs there’s only 1 goal in it I think, except we are conceding more now
Yet Swansman says we're bad at home because our fans are terrible......
Totally agree with the last paragraph.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
*windsock is the English transition, although your version is more amusing
In fact let’s have it right. Potter last 11 PL games vs RDZ 11 games
Potter - 24 GF, 8 GA. 7W 3D 1L
RDZ - 21 GF, 20 GA. 4W 2D 5L
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
- 7,902
or maybe weathervane
What's a more acceptable sample size?
The form table from April 2022 until GP left suggests the upturn in form (and goalscoring) was more than a lucky flash in the pan this season:
27 goals scored in 14 PL games (1.93 per game), 2.14 points per game.
Contrast that to RdZ's PL record so far:
21 goals scored in 11 games (1.91 per game), 1.27 points per game.
I'm not for a second saying that RdZ hasn't made a brilliant start (not easy picking up the reins from someone else, especially in a new league & country, no matter how good the platform left by the predecessor & how good the club's support systems are). I also believe RdZ is an upgrade on Potter - certainly in terms of entertainment, but also how far he can take the club (though it's early days & time will tell).
What does grate is how so many are still acting like jilted lovers and re-writing history to either pretend that they're not actually bothered he left (because he wasn't all that anyway); or that they were right all along in their opinion that he's rubbish (in a few cases, even though they'd started to admit they were wrong and that Potter was coming good for us).
Impossible to prove, obviously, but if our fans were polled last summer (i.e. even before the great start to this season), I would imagine the overwhelming majority would describe Potter as being better than merely 'par' or 'average' in his performance. I'd imagine that TB and PB would share that sentiment.
There are plenty of articles by respected journalists (and plenty by unknowns too) describing the terrific job Potter was doing at Brighton:
Data in Context: How Did Graham Potter’s Brighton Achieve a ‘Big Six’ Style of Play with a Bottom Six Budget? - Analytics FC
Dan Pritchard assesses Graham Potter’s tactical approach using data to show how he overachieved relative to budget with the Seagulls Almost all football clubs at the professional level use data these days, but fewer are led by that data, used to its fullest potential. This is something that...
analyticsfc.co.uk
Graham Potter’s unique rise to Chelsea and the challenge he faces - Sports Illustrated
Todd Boehly seems to have gotten his first-choice coach, but the former Brighton manager won’t be allotted the same freedom and patience at Stamford Bridge.
www.si.com
10 impressive stats that show why Graham Potter got the Chelsea job
Graham Potter is Chelsea's new manager and has proven himself worthy of the opportunity. Here are 10 impressive statistics from Potter's career to date that show how he's earned his shot at one of the biggest jobs in the country.
www.planetfootball.com
Potter to be named Chelsea boss in next 24 hours
Graham Potter is set to be appointed Chelsea manager in the next 24 hours, ending his three-year spell with Brighton.
www.bbc.co.uk
If he is actually just an average Joe, plodding his way through his average career, he has done very well to pull the wool over the eyes of so many smart minds in the football world, not least Tony Bloom.
All of that said, I will still chuckle if/when it falls apart at Chelsea which, IMO, would only be because they pull the trigger too soon (I can both appreciate what he did for us, yet relish the schadenfreude if he crashes and burns)
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
You can prove anything with facts.
Official Old Man
Uckfield Seagull
Joao Felix. Sold for £113 million by Benfica to Athletico Madrid but not really come up to expectations. Now Chelsea want him on loan till summer. Will pay £11 million fee plus £6 million wages. Is any player, especially one who has not scored as many goals as expected, really worth £17 million for 20 games?
jackalbion
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- Aug 30, 2011
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This with bells on, he will be never successful with a big club because of this
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Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Sterling is supposedly on about £17m per year, and he only turns up for 20 games a season...
Same, I never liked the guy from a personality perspective, and I can't stand him now especially when he keeps saying what an amazing club Chelsea are and how great their fans are. His soul is sold and he is desperately trying to say the right things knowing most of them hate him. Yes he got us playing better football than Hughton and we needed to evolve but I would have happily seen him booted after those horror runs in his first two seasons. Ironically the Potter cult always used the "who else could do a better job" card to defend those miserable winless goal less runs and now we have all sees that Tony and the club are more than well tapped into the global manager talent market and there is ALWAYS someone out there who can do a good job.
- May 8, 2018
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Every day when he drives past the silver cock in Dorking I reckon.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
He's not really taken them backward though;
Tuchel's final 11 games:
P11 W5 D3 L3 GF5 GA6 pts 18
Potter's first 11 games:
P11 W4 D3 L3 GF6 GA7 pts 15
It is more of a continuation of the same or not taking them forwards. Chelsea have just changed owners, team spirit already at a low, very few goals (even less under Tuchel), complete revolution of the club behind the scenes, injury crisis blah blah blah.
His process and way of coaching and tactics may well be difficult to implement at the highest level with his style of management, but Chelsea as proof of that after 11 games is a bit of a leap.
jackalbion
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- Aug 30, 2011
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Don't think its fair to count all 11 games, as in his first 3/4 he was clearly trying to play with Potter's tactics. Counting from the Chelsea game would be far better.
That’s his problem, he had 2 weeks after being appointed before his first game so more time than Potter had with his new Chelsea team
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
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Yup. It's remarkably positive on here but I feel like we are setting ourselves up for a massive fall. There will be times Solly can't hit a barn door, there will be times Ferguson looks 18 and there will be times Mitoma falls over his feet every time he gets the ball. There'll also be some serious drubbings you suspect.
It's really positive, exciting, but we need to reign it in a little. We are not a top 8 team that Potter was holding back, I'm certain of that.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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Yep, I think we are going to get a rude awakening with a drubbing at some stage, how we recover from that will be interesting.
I also expect some knee jerk “get rid” reactions on here if it happens two or three times in quick succession too.
I would like to, but I refuse to believe that we are going to continue on the current trajectory without dips in results.
#glasshalfempty
