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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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It’s on!

Another Portillo moment in 2024!

The ****ing pig thinks it can get back the Torty leadership after Sunak inevitably loses the election!

Let’s see the pig roasted like Portillo was in ‘96. The swing needed to remove this tosser from his London seat is not that significant. This could be the best election moment of all time!
Won't he try and swap to mad nads seat when she gets put in the Lords? Uxbridge 5k majority,
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
Well, the 179 voters who ticked their box must have understood this.
I, for one, didn't realise they were still going.

From their website
First and foremost, we need a Full Brexit, in which we recover our sovereign independence in all parts of the UK and in our seas as well as on land. The EU has learned nothing from its defeat in 2016. It has positioned itself as an unrelenting enemy of the UK, using the Withdrawal Agreement as a punishment weapon to 'décourager les autres' (i.e., other EU members tempted to follow our example). There is no chance of any reasonable deal with Brussels. We would therefore be prepared to scrap the whole Withdrawal Agreement in the face of continued EU intransigence.

😃😃
They won't be happy until the channel tunnel is filled in and spaghetti hoops are outlawed from all supermarkets
 








St Leonards Seagull

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A1X

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schmunk

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Jan 19, 2018
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How about a proper fossil fuel windfall tax to give the nurses the pay rise they deserve?
Lovely idea, but upon which entity/ies are you planning to impose that tax, and how much do you expect to raise?

Remember, UK government has very restricted taxing rights on non-UK entities.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,312
How about a proper fossil fuel windfall tax to give the nurses the pay rise they deserve?
how do you pay the salary increase when the windfall doesn't apply? windfall taxes must not be used to supplement general spending. we could have a pool of money for more healthcare pay, the social care levy (NI), everyone complained and its gone. if nurses are to have a 17% rise thats going to be £5bn or so, we need a penny on income tax to cover that.
 
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BrightonCottager

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Sep 30, 2013
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Brighton
Lovely idea, but upon which entity/ies are you planning to impose that tax, and how much do you expect to raise?

Remember, UK government has very restricted taxing rights on non-UK entities.
A tax on carbon reflecting the social and environmental cost of climate change will be a good start. Yes, it would affect our lifestyles but it would fund a lot of 'good'. After all, one of the principles of taxation is that you tax the 'bad' and reward the 'good' with tax cuts.
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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A tax on carbon reflecting the social and environmental cost of climate change will be a good start. Yes, it would affect our lifestyles but it would fund a lot of 'good'. After all, one of the principles of taxation is that you tax the 'bad' and reward the 'good' with tax cuts.
The Tories are incapable of anything like that.

Instead we have exemptions on windfall taxes provided they are ploughed back into digging yet more fossils fuels out of the ground.
 






Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
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Putin will be absolutely devastated if Nurses accept their paltry pay award. It would inevitably lead to him pulling his troops out of the Ukraine and giving up on his annexation plan. Nadhim has his finger on pulse here.
If Sophie was struggling not to laugh on hearing that, Putin will need a change of trousers.
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
16,653
Fiveways
how do you pay the salary increase when the windfall doesn't apply? windfall taxes must not be used to supplement general spending. we could have a pool of money for more healthcare pay, the social care levy (NI), everyone complained and its gone. if nurses are to have a 17% rise thats going to be £5bn or so, we need a penny on income tax to cover that.
Are you familiar with what happens in negotiations between unions and employers?
Note, it's a rhetorical question, because you are, but this post suggests either that you're not, that you're simply parroting Tory mantra or, now slightly differently, that you're just repeating what the highly credible IEA pumps out.
 




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