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shingle

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Jan 18, 2004
3,141
Lewes
Says a lot about the England squad in 1970 WC that they narrowly beat us. All I can remember being a 10 year old at the time was "that tackle by Moore", the save by Banks and Fcucking Jeff Astle missing a sitter.
 






Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
24,896
Worthing
Says a lot about the England squad in 1970 WC that they narrowly beat us. All I can remember being a 10 year old at the time was "that tackle by Moore", the save by Banks and Fcucking Jeff Astle missing a sitter.

Was probably as good as the 66 team but Bobby Charlton and Hurst were pretty much done.

I hate to speak ill of the dead but Astle’s chance........oh dear.
 


Weststander

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NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
64,057
Withdean area
Absolutely. Pele, Jairzinho, Tostao, Rivellino, Carlos Alberto. We'll never see the likes of again.

I was too young but have watched highlights of their attacking brilliance. Destroying a confident, savvy and star studded Italian team built on a mean defence was incredible.

For me too, the following were also football geniuses within the one team - Cruyff, Krol, Neeskens, Rensenbrink, Rep, van Hanegem, R. van der Kerkhof and Haan.
 


Barham's tash

Well-known member
Jun 8, 2013
3,615
Rayners Lane
Three World Cup victories, the first at the age of 17.

The only player that comes close is Maradona for me.

The modern era doesn’t lend itself to such greats on a world stage where arguably club football eclipses internationals these days so the big boys barely turn up.

Ronaldo, as much as I dislike him, has done much more than Messi on an international stage but if you could get them all in their prime at the same time on a pitch then I’d pay to see Pele, Maradona and Messi but Ronaldo I can totally take or leave him.
 




crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,536
Lyme Regis
Get well soon Pele, the greatest who has ever loved.
 




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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
24,896
Worthing
'Messi is clearly greater' - Really?

It's all about opinions but how many headed goals does Messi score?

How many world cups has Messi won?

Different era - different ball, pitches, referees, opposition etc. but IMO to say Messi is clearly greater' is wrong -it's really impossible to compare.
Pele was kicked out of the 66 World Cup it’s often recorded…… Messi gets a lot more protection than Pele or even Maradona got, My point………. no idea
 




Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,463
it would be so Pele to pop his cloggs during a world cup
 


bluenitsuj

Listen to me!!!
Feb 26, 2011
4,359
Willingdon
I know he is very poorly and all but this lazy sentimentalist dogma of ‘the greatest ever’ needs to be scrutinised.

Messi is clearly greater, you might want to add Maradonna and C.Ronaldo to that list as well.

Hope he feels much better very soon, he is undoubtedly a legend and one of the greatest ever.
Pele is the greatest player of all time in my opinion. Messi is not greater by any means and Maradona was a cheat.
 


Deleted member 37369

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Aug 21, 2018
1,994
Pele is the greatest player of all time in my opinion. Messi is not greater by any means and Maradona was a cheat.
Totally agree. The swagger Brazil had in that 4-1 win over Italy in the 1970 World Cup Final was a joy to behold.

One of my prized possessions ...

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Jeremiah

God is great
Mar 15, 2020
2,186
Hove
Pele best footballer ever - IMO.

Have a look at some of the tackles that were allowed when he was playing - Messi & Ronaldo wouldn't know what hit them.
 








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