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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Regrettably there are many on this board that probably won't believe a police officer, because they are apparently 'right minded' - I tend to try and use both the left, right, front and back parts of my brain. I wish others would. If 'kip' hasn't agreed with a single word I've argued, despite...
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Yeah, apart from I've never baked a cake before. It would be an improvement for Fishersgate Rec, and maybe they could teach the scoundrels who arson the Community Centre here a few lessons.
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    I'm awake. I can't sleep type, as far as I know.
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Great lengths? Like the widespread media coverage they get? Jesus, the poor bastards are lucky to get Vanessa Redgrave and David Essex helping them attain a voice. They've got f*** all, and you'd wish they had f***ing less. As for shitting in your garden, I f***ing would, because you've...
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    I expect the term 'traveller' was given to them - you'd have to go study the etymology of the term. Certainly the word gypsy was given to them. Many of them call themselves Romani, or Tinkers, or Gitanes, Gitanos, Tziganes or a number of the different ethnic groups lumped into the term. Like the...
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    I think it is worth adding here (because most of you have no clue of the situation, the last thing you'd want to do was inform yourselves) that in this particular case at Dale Farm, half of the residents live legally on well-manicured plots, with permission, the other half illegally occupy...
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    There have been numerous examples of anti social behaviour of my next door neighbours. They live in a flat. The guy down the road from me has a front yard full of Skoda's and Skoda parts, I'd guess his house has three bedrooms. Ever seen a farm yard? Your point is? I'd guarantee you that the...
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Really? I'll happily discuss the matter when you show me some evidence. It's the same as me saying: 'what about all the rubbish some Albion fans discard on the way to and from a match?'
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Where is it?
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Everyone deserves a defence, even murderers. Certainly their contribution to culture deserves respect. I'm sure you're all happy to go and listen to some manouche, or flamenco in some middle class restaurant, or hang Alfred Munnings paintings depicting some romantic gypsy encampment. A person...
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Common land.
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Other than the sheer amount of abuse, racism and mis-information, this stead-fast righteousness of some posters banging on about the law is absurd. I would wager that every single person on this board has intentionally or unintentionally broken a law - whether that's smoking a spliff or parking...
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    I'll let Queen Victoria answer this one (1836) "Whenever any poor Gipsies are encamped anywhere and crimes and robberies etc occur, it is invariably laid to their account, which is shocking; and if they are always looked upon as vagabonds, how can they become good people? I trust in heaven that...
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    Absolutely, but the law took away their traditional stopping places first - which is why both sides need to put their hands up and say 'hey, my bad' and sort the damn problem out.
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    Dale Farm Travellers.

    I agree - certainly there needs to be a better dialogue between travellers, planners, council and community. I'm currently going through a planning process at the moment - I'm educated to post-grad level and it's a mind f***, I can barely understand it. Sadly a lot of these people can't read or...

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