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[Finance] Foreign Aid



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disgruntled h blocker

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I have worked on a couple of foreign aid projects in Africa for DFID and EuropeAID and if people think blank cheques are handed over you are wrong. A lot of the foreign aid budgets is spent on sending UK manufactured equipment (JCBS, [in the past Land Rovers], engineering systems etc) and also on-the-ground experts which the aid agencies typically resource out through a tendering process, so for example a UK engineering firm might get the contract for a UK funded aid mission to an African state.

Admittedly, sometimes the foreign aid money does go astray, like with Bingu wa Mutharika's private jet, which is quickly picked up and managed; and with other cases where it is pocketed by despot dictators, like Mobutu, you need to question the geopolitics related to the donating state allowing this.

Obviously this isn't what people like to hear when they get carried away by popularist rhetoric.
 


Blue3

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Might have been a better option to stop our supplying of weapons to countries who then use those same weapons on people we then supply aid to and be a bit more like Sweaden and sell flat pack furniture to the world instead
 




Blue3

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We have to stop interfering in other countries our aim should be to encourage peace peaceably £16 billion on a bigger military an extra 20 thousand police while we reduce our aid really we are in the middle of the worst pandemic in our lifetime and it will be affecting the poorest nations far worse, we have caused havoc across the Middle East with our involvement in one country after another tale Lybia we bomb it and support the overthrow of one particular nasty dictator and walk away ever since they have been in a civil war with several particularly nasty dictators, while million flee looking for refuge which we largely turn a blind eye to, stop spending on military have a defence force to defend our islands and to offer aid when required, and support a European fighting response force, scrap our nuclear weapons, save the £16 billion for helping the country and supporting our commitment to those far less fortunate than ourselves
 




nicko31

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I have worked on a couple of foreign aid projects in Africa for DFID and EuropeAID and if people think blank cheques are handed over you are wrong. A lot of the foreign aid budgets is spent on sending UK manufactured equipment (JCBS, [in the past Land Rovers], engineering systems etc) and also on-the-ground experts which the aid agencies typically resource out through a tendering process, so for example a UK engineering firm might get the contract for a UK funded aid mission to an African state.

Admittedly, sometimes the foreign aid money does go astray, like with Bingu wa Mutharika's private jet, which is quickly picked up and managed; and with other cases where it is pocketed by despot dictators, like Mobutu, you need to question the geopolitics related to the donating state allowing this.

Obviously this isn't what people like to hear when they get carried away by popularist rhetoric.

Yep, like all aid or charity we can't let the prefect be the enemy of the good.

I really hope the government reconsiders their decision, its short sighted and they are doing it at the worst possible time.

Scoring political points at home to punish the worlds poorest isn't a great look, we need to decide what kind of country we want to be
 


Algernon

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India definitely doesn't need aid. If they can afford to explore the further reaches of space, they've enough spare cash without our help.
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Shropshire Seagull

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a penny to a pound she votes tory

I'd venture the other way ...
a) likely too stupid to know how to vote [never mind who for], or
b) not registered on the electoral roll [to dodge council tax], or
c) can't find a parking space right outside the polling station for her Chelsea tractor

take your pick - but obvs a non-voter
 




Randy McNob

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Drop in a very big ocean.

I wouldn’t tax the Queen either,.


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Taxing the Royals is an option as the media can easily paint them as a public enemy, but corporates..? Maybe when hell freezes over
 


portslade seagull

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It’s not foreign aid, it’s foreign influence. China has substantially increased foreign aid to those African countries that have large resources of precious metals and other natural resources and now gets favourable terms and is front of the queue when infrastructure projects are announced overseas.

For the UK the decision to cut foreign aid is a classic example of short termism, something our government is very good at.

When we travelled to Kenya on a 2-week safari it was quite amazing the amount of roads and building projects bring funded by China. The Kenyans in general mostly loved it as it was improving the infrastructure and was inward investment which was lacking from the rest of the world. I think the payback was probably raw materials
 






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A1X

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One of the casualties of this cut is that AstraZeneca vaccines will now be slower to roll out to the developing world, leaving millions at risk, a continuing pandemic and the risk of the rise of further variants and mutations which could put us all back at risk from the virus.
 






Baker lite

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When we travelled to Kenya on a 2-week safari it was quite amazing the amount of roads and building projects bring funded by China. The Kenyans in general mostly loved it as it was improving the infrastructure and was inward investment which was lacking from the rest of the world. I think the payback was probably raw materials

Odd that we are paying foreign aid money to a country, that then send that foreign aid to another country to build roads.. lovely.
 


nicko31

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One of the casualties of this cut is that AstraZeneca vaccines will now be slower to roll out to the developing world, leaving millions at risk, a continuing pandemic and the risk of the rise of further variants and mutations which could put us all back at risk from the virus.

So stupid and short sighted. Again the government is putting short term popularity over what is the right thing to do.

Shame on every Tory MP that voted for the cut yesterday
 




Baker lite

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So stupid and short sighted. Again the government is putting short term popularity over what is the right thing to do.

Shame on every Tory MP that voted for the cut yesterday

I’ve sent a grovelling letter to India, apologising that their space program could be delayed as a consequence of our selfishness.
I’m absolutely FUMING that we can’t borrow more money to give away..spitting with anger right now.
 








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