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[Albion] Will Maupay still have a future with Potter after this?







Badger

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If maupay starts for us next year, we will go down. He’s good enough for the bench. Simple as that,


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He's started for us this year and we're not going down :shrug:
 


AmexRuislip

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People who want to bench him or replace him in the starting eleven with something better or different, I understand that.

But selling him? Garbage idea.

With Maupay you know you have a hard working striker who scored a reasonable number of goals in the Premier League and who is pretty much never injured.

Its him, Danny Welbeck (injured for probably 50% of his career), Connolly (unproven and out with injuries x number of times this season), Florin Andone (injured for about 1,5 years) plus Percy Tau and Zeqiri who may or may (unfortunately more likely) not be the world beaters we want them to be.

Maupay is the closest thing you'll get to a guarantee that you always have at least one decent (and yeah some of you dont think he is but you dont score 8-10 goals in the best league in the world without being at least decent) forward available. Thats worth a lot in case you get injuries or if it turns out the new striker recruit is not able to bang in the 20 he'd be expected to.


Whatever NM said to that twunt of a ref, he's obviously criticised his decision making, then he's given a red card.

Didn't LD publicly criticise Lee Mason and VAR on that free kick v WBA, to my recollection he didn't receive any punishment.

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DarrenFreemansPerm

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I can’t help but think he’d benefit if the whole team scored more goals, he probably feels immense pressure to deliver being the sole recognised striker for a team which is laughably shit in front of goal, maybe if a few others chipped in he could play more relaxed.
Or I could just be making excuses.
 


BluesRockDJ

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In no way condoning his red card, if it was for foul and abusive language, in the game after a player pumped a lot of f***s into the ref with no action taken ........consistency ??
 






Springal

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Mainly because the goals are coming from other players


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Apart from Welbeck adding more than Murray did last season, who else has scored more ?
 


SeagullDubai

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Apart from Welbeck adding more than Murray did last season, who else has scored more ?

Not many. Isn’t that the problem? As our main recognized striker are you defending him as having contributed to our successful season?


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Springal

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Not many. Isn’t that the problem? As our main recognized striker are you defending him as having contributed to our successful season?


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But you said other players are bailing him out , they are not and that’s the problem. Take away his 8 goals and we are relegated by now. I posted in another thread but Neal Maupay is worth what we paid. And he’s about par with Jarrod Bowen, Josh King, Glenn Murray, Mitrovitch etc

The fact the board have only spent £20M on a striker that is even worth playing - and wasted much more since promotion is the real problem
 








Bodian

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Whatever NM said to that twunt of a ref, he's obviously criticised his decision making, then he's given a red card.

Didn't LD publicly criticise Lee Mason and VAR on that free kick v WBA, to my recollection he didn't receive any punishment.

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I guess the language used might have been slightly different.....
 


DavidinSouthampton

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Calm, but fairly strong words from GP in the post match interview:



Potter doesn’t seem to have much tolerance for players who have emotional or disciplinary issues. See Andone and Knockeart.

Maupay has also been struggling most of this season, certainly in terms of chances missed. He’ll now miss most of the season to compound that.

What happens to Maupay now?

GP doesn’t do anything but calm.

And GP is better equipped than most to deal with emotional or disciplinary issues.

If he didn’t rate Maupay as a player and what he brings to the team, he wouldn’t play him so much. Nothing to see here.
 


Reddleman

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But you said other players are bailing him out , they are not and that’s the problem. Take away his 8 goals and we are relegated by now. I posted in another thread but Neal Maupay is worth what we paid. And he’s about par with Jarrod Bowen, Josh King, Glenn Murray, Mitrovitch etc

The fact the board have only spent £20M on a striker that is even worth playing - and wasted much more since promotion is the real problem

Not true we would be relegated by now without his goals. Two of them came is games we lost, two came in games we won three nil certainly his goal against Newcastle at home meant nothing

His goals have directly guaranteed us 4 points (an extra 2 v Leeds, 1 v West Ham, and 1 v Wolves home). Even if I am generous and award the extra two against Newcastle away that’s only 6 points. For a centre forward that’s a terrible return. Off the top of my head Glenn Murray managed more than that in the first 10 games of Hughtons last season.
 




DavidinSouthampton

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Whatever NM said to that twunt of a ref, he's obviously criticised his decision making, then he's given a red card.

Didn't LD publicly criticise Lee Mason and VAR on that free kick v WBA, to my recollection he didn't receive any punishment.

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Foul and abusive language is probably the difference - not just criticism.
 




JBizzle

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Not true we would be relegated by now without his goals. Two of them came is games we lost, two came in games we won three nil certainly his goal against Newcastle at home meant nothing

His goals have directly guaranteed us 4 points (an extra 2 v Leeds, 1 v West Ham, and 1 v Wolves home). Even if I am generous and award the extra two against Newcastle away that’s only 6 points. For a centre forward that’s a terrible return. Off the top of my head Glenn Murray managed more than that in the first 10 games of Hughtons last season.

He's been with us 2 seasons though. Last season his goals directly contributed to us getting 12 extra points (incl. 2x winners v Arsenal) without which we would have been relegated. This seasons his goals have been less impactful without a doubt though
 


Eric Youngs Contact Lens

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On a completely rational front, Maupay is daft, and has let his frustration get to him, and in that moment acted unprofessionally.
On a completely irrational front, there is something incredibly annoying and tedious about the way that referees and their assistants behave at the end of a game. I just hate the way that they "gather" and parade together and "dismiss", often with a dismissive wave of the hand any attempt to engage them by player or manager. Of course I understand that they are still officiating and know the rational arguments for doing so, but as a player (or coach) who has been frustrated by their decision making, the body-language and condescending air they give off at that moment must be very hard to stomach! Maybe we don't see it, so a subjective opinion, but the attempt to engage with a player, unless thy are a superstar and on 1st name terms with, to try and diffuse an emotional situation doesn't seem to happen very often.
 




SweatyMexican

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He shouldn’t be getting abuse on social media, but if he expects change, he probably shouldn’t give foul and abusive language back to referees. He’s in a position where young kids look up to him as a footballer, so he should know better.

But it is what it is. It’s Neal, and he’s passionate. Hopefully Graham can turn that into a positive workrate and not get himself down.
 


poidy

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Shame Maupay couldn’t demonstrate the same levels of respect that he spoke about only a few weeks ago in relation to social media.

I’m paraphrasing here, but “footballers are only human, we make mistakes and are always trying”.

Doesn’t yesterday’s referee also fall into that category?

Yes, social media abuse is unacceptable but why wasn’t Jon Moss shown the same level of understanding and respect from Maupay, that he himself demanded during his post match interview only a few short weeks ago?

Why is Mr Maupay okay to hurl dogs abuse at Jon Moss on a Sunday afternoon, but unable to deal with supporters critiquing his own performance? To pre-empt any counter argument on that line which so often gets crossed on social media, I’d say Maupay himself crossed it yesterday.

Yes, it might have been in person and not over social media but what’s the difference?

Smacks of hypocrisy.


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