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Westdene Seagull

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I know this will test you , but i do not believe we built the pyramids there are just too many hurdles .

I think we might need a Crackpot Pit rather than the Bear Pit for this thread.
 




TugWilson

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Dec 8, 2020
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There is plenty of historical evidence that show you step by step the evolution of building techniques that lead to the pyramids being built. It's very simple and logical. And of earth.

They age the pyramids and the Sphinx at around 5000 yrs old yet the experts now believe that there is proof on the Sphinx of water erosion making them at least twice that age . Take into account the stone came from 500 miles away by ships made of papyrus reeds and /or acacia wood which is very heavy itself , and the average stone weighed 2.4 tons . Most say they used rollers but the only trees near the pyramids were date trees , both very weak and one of the few food sources so hardly likely to cut them down . It has been said that nearly 500,000 slaves/workers built the great pyramid in 30 yrs , but to move dress and lay 6.4 million tons of stone has been estimated at taking nearly 600 yrs .
 




The Clamp

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They age the pyramids and the Sphinx at around 5000 yrs old yet the experts now believe that there is proof on the Sphinx of water erosion making them at least twice that age . Take into account the stone came from 500 miles away by ships made of papyrus reeds and /or acacia wood which is very heavy itself , and the average stone weighed 2.4 tons . Most say they used rollers but the only trees near the pyramids were date trees , both very weak and one of the few food sources so hardly likely to cut them down . It has been said that nearly 500,000 slaves/workers built the great pyramid in 30 yrs , but to move dress and lay 6.4 million tons of stone has been estimated at taking nearly 600 yrs .


I'm sorry but while some questions remain unanswered about the pyramid construction, it doesn't mean the only possible answer is alien tech. But look, while it's a genuinely fascinating topic and you are conveying your theories in a very civil and reasonable way (a breath of fresh air on here), I don;t think we will agree on this one. Fascinating stuff though, from all angles of the topic.
 


TugWilson

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Dec 8, 2020
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I'm sorry but while some questions remain unanswered about the pyramid construction, it doesn't mean the only possible answer is alien tech. But look, while it's a genuinely fascinating topic and you are conveying your theories in a very civil and reasonable way (a breath of fresh air on here), I don;t think we will agree on this one. Fascinating stuff though, from all angles of the topic.

Enjoy the rest of your night :thumbsup:
 






Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
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They age the pyramids and the Sphinx at around 5000 yrs old yet the experts now believe that there is proof on the Sphinx of water erosion making them at least twice that age . Take into account the stone came from 500 miles away by ships made of papyrus reeds and /or acacia wood which is very heavy itself , and the average stone weighed 2.4 tons . Most say they used rollers but the only trees near the pyramids were date trees , both very weak and one of the few food sources so hardly likely to cut them down . It has been said that nearly 500,000 slaves/workers built the great pyramid in 30 yrs , but to move dress and lay 6.4 million tons of stone has been estimated at taking nearly 600 yrs .

Theories put forward by Graham Handcock (Finger prints of the Gods) which have been binned by all but a few of the tin foil brigade. His view that the pyramids at Gaza plus the Nile represent the constellation of Orion is a great read however it has a tiny flaw ... gaza and the Nile is the mirror image and so the a Pyramids are built on the wrong side of the Nile. A great read and some great theories but that’s about it. Yes I have read the book ( more than once).


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Machiavelli

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I thought that a 18 yr old has got to live a bit yet for her opinions to be listened to,who is behind her to get her noticed?

No-one is behind her. She started her protest all on her own, off her own initiative about 3 or 4 years ago. She has shown resilience. People have flocked to her, because it's lacking elsewhere. That is all.
 




pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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How is it irrelevant when you knew what i was talking about , if you`re looking for an argument go look somewhere else . If you want a discussion then use common sense when reading a post instead of trying to find fault . It`s that sort of word manipulation that leads to crap like fake news .

I wasnt looking for an argument or discussion i was simply letting you know your statement was incorrect.
You are entitled to believe you are right.
 


TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
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Theories put forward by Graham Handcock (Finger prints of the Gods) which have been binned by all but a few of the tin foil brigade. His view that the pyramids at Gaza plus the Nile represent the constellation of Orion is a great read however it has a tiny flaw ... gaza and the Nile is the mirror image and so the a Pyramids are built on the wrong side of the Nile. A great read and some great theories but that’s about it. Yes I have read the book ( more than once).


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I don`t know that book i`ll have a look at it , i do know that Von Daniken and others proved the Great pyramid was perfectly aligned to Orions belt as it was 10,000 yrs ago . Thanks for that .
 


The Clamp

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I’m not on about creepy,I’m on about the bell I was replying to.


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Oh right. It can prove quite challenging to understand what you’re trying to say and whom you are addressing as it’s all sort of jumbled in with aggression, rudeness, name calling and a startling miscomprehension of the basic topic.
 




TugWilson

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Dec 8, 2020
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I wasnt looking for an argument or discussion i was simply letting you know your statement was incorrect.
You are entitled to believe you are right.

That`s the difference between you and me , i don`t have a problem being wrong so long as i learn something , you on the other hand have a desperate need to prove someone wrong . And your full of it , if you " wasn`t looking for an argument or discussion " you would have passed my post by without a word .
As for my statement being incorrect , no it wasn`t , and it`s so kind of you to tell me that i am entitled to believe i`m right because i do and i am :)
 


dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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They age the pyramids and the Sphinx at around 5000 yrs old yet the experts now believe that there is proof on the Sphinx of water erosion making them at least twice that age . Take into account the stone came from 500 miles away by ships made of papyrus reeds and /or acacia wood which is very heavy itself , and the average stone weighed 2.4 tons . Most say they used rollers but the only trees near the pyramids were date trees , both very weak and one of the few food sources so hardly likely to cut them down . It has been said that nearly 500,000 slaves/workers built the great pyramid in 30 yrs , but to move dress and lay 6.4 million tons of stone has been estimated at taking nearly 600 yrs .
If you accept that the stone was moved 500 miles, you can't then use the argument that they couldn't have been built because the wood couldn't have been moved 500 miles.

If it took 600 years to dress the stone for the Great Pyramid, then presumably the Great Wall of China took about 10,000 years? There was a lot more stone in that. Perhaps they're still building it. That's why it looks unfinished.

I don't know if you check any figures about this, or if you slavishly take anything as gospel as long as it agrees your theories. But I do check figures. If 500,000 slaves each lay 1 house brick every 2 months for 600 years, they could build the great pyramid. One brick every two months. Not exactly sweated labour, was it. If only they had laid a brick every month, they could have done it in 300.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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I’m not on about creepy,I’m on about the bell I was replying to.


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Would you mind focussing your insults about her to her message rather than her autism? I have two austistic kids who receive similar childish teasing about their persona (usually from kids who don't know better rather than grown adults.)

Having a crack at someone for their message is one thing but insulting then because of who they are is poor form (and the bullying, you seem to be taking offense at being accused if).

I don't know Greta but I know enough about autism to know that there is a huge possibilty that what she does is difficult for her. The challenges that she probably faces in sharing her message with the world bcause if her autism, reason for huge amounts of admiration and respect. Personally I find it sad when people meet this with sneering derision and childish insults.

If someone with only 18 years of life experience (as someone else pointed out earlier) can overcome challenges to behave with eloquence, wit and grace, one wonders why those with more years of wisdom cannot do the same.

Disagree all you like but at least try not to have a crack at her just because her brain is wired up different to yours.

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pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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That`s the difference between you and me , i don`t have a problem being wrong so long as i learn something , you on the other hand have a desperate need to prove someone wrong . And your full of it , if you " wasn`t looking for an argument or discussion " you would have passed my post by without a word .
As for my statement being incorrect , no it wasn`t , and it`s so kind of you to tell me that i am entitled to believe i`m right because i do and i am :)

As long as I learn something?
What did you learn, after being showed on here, that the example you gave of ZPE in action was actually a hoax?
 


TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
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If you accept that the stone was moved 500 miles, you can't then use the argument that they couldn't have been built because the wood couldn't have been moved 500 miles.

If it took 600 years to dress the stone for the Great Pyramid, then presumably the Great Wall of China took about 10,000 years? There was a lot more stone in that. Perhaps they're still building it. That's why it looks unfinished.

I don't know if you check any figures about this, or if you slavishly take anything as gospel as long as it agrees your theories. But I do check figures. If 500,000 slaves each lay 1 house brick every 2 months for 600 years, they could build the great pyramid. One brick every two months. Not exactly sweated labour, was it. If only they had laid a brick every month, they could have done it in 300.
Here we go again , 500,000 is what the idiots say not me or anyone with a brain , there were not that many men available in the area at the time , remember you have to feed and water them 3 times a day ! . Look why don`t you just read Chariots of the Gods , Eric Von Daniken gives all the details of his research . As for the Great wall of China that`s not in a dirty great big desert , the stones are not uniformed or dressed and they had millions of workers ! . By the way smart arse at 2.4 tons a stone your labourer would be doing bloody brilliant to lay one every 2 months considering the great pyramid was 50 storey`s high !
 


TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,500
Dorset
As long as I learn something?
What did you learn, after being showed on here, that the example you gave of ZPE in action was actually a hoax?

Simple i learnt to look closer and not to take all things on youtube at face value , i made a mistake , but my mistake doesn`t change the facts . As i said if it is not real it does not need debunking , the fact i chose a bad example proves someone is going out of their way to prove it doesn`t work . Fact is it does and there are good examples out there .
 


pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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Simple i learnt to look closer and not to take all things on youtube at face value , i made a mistake , but my mistake doesn`t change the facts . As i said if it is not real it does not need debunking , the fact i chose a bad example proves someone is going out of their way to prove it doesn`t work . Fact is it does and there are good examples out there .

If it were real there would be no need for debunkers to debunk it.
 




dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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Here we go again , 500,000 is what the idiots say not me or anyone with a brain , there were not that many men available in the area at the time , remember you have to feed and water them 3 times a day ! . Look why don`t you just read Chariots of the Gods , Eric Von Daniken gives all the details of his research . As for the Great wall of China that`s not in a dirty great big desert , the stones are not uniformed or dressed and they had millions of workers ! . By the way smart arse at 2.4 tons a stone your labourer would be doing bloody brilliant to lay one every 2 months considering the great pyramid was 50 storey`s high !
Nice to know that you can agree with people with brains, even though you (perhaps rightly) don't claim to be one of them.

Are you saying that the interior of the pyramids was dressed rubble? And would it add strength to my arguments if I called you a rude name?
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
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Mid Sussex
I don`t know that book i`ll have a look at it , i do know that Von Daniken and others proved the Great pyramid was perfectly aligned to Orions belt as it was 10,000 yrs ago . Thanks for that .

They’re not perfect aligned as they are flipped. Pyramids on the opposite side of the Nile .. apart from that pretty much spot on.


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