[Football] Claims Chris Wilder demanded £4million pay off from Sheffield Utd

[Weststander]

Classless from Abdullah in revealing private and confidential employment/contract discussions with an employee at the time.

Cherry-picking propaganda, we don’t hear the other side.

 

[Weststander]

I'll just continue saying my piece, same as everybody else, until such time as the circle jerk is complete

My knocking is exactly the same as everybody else's knocking is (or should be). Repeated failure to invest in quality up front. Oh, and failure to invest in managers / coaches / whateveryouwanttocallthem with a proven track record. It's cost us - and more importantly TB - in the long run. And the short to medium run also. Oh well

Assuming you’re talking the club since 2017?:

We don’t know that this has cost TB, yet. Hopefully never.

So far so good, CH and GP have delivered EPL income for 4 years, a 5th season looks on the cards.

Achieved without the far more costly transfer gaffs of other clubs such as Villa and CP.

 

[portlock seagull]

Classless from Abdullah in revealing private and confidential employment/contract discussions with an employee at the time.

Cherry-picking propaganda, we don’t hear the other side.

Yep. No class doing dirty washing in public.

 

[ditchy]

I'll just continue saying my piece, same as everybody else, until such time as the circle jerk is complete

My knocking is exactly the same as everybody else's knocking is (or should be). Repeated failure to invest in quality up front. Oh, and failure to invest in managers / coaches / whateveryouwanttocallthem with a proven track record. It's cost us - and more importantly TB - in the long run. And the short to medium run also. Oh well

What makes you think ,that a proven top manager is A) available at the time needed B) wanting to come to a relatively small club in the pecking order of the big boys. ?
A tad dreamland I think .

 

[Weststander]

What makes you think ,that a proven top manager is A) available at the time needed B) wanting to come to a relatively small club in the pecking order of the big boys. ?
A tad dreamland I think .

Whilst also (C) Swerving wisely the usual suspects of Pardew, Pulis, Hughes, McLaren, Warnock and Allardyce.

 

[TugWilson]

I think it depends how you define ‘failure’. He took them on as a floundering League One side and took them all the way up to the Prem in consecutive seasons, where they had a terrific first season before things went tits up this time around.

In cold, hard financial terms the club has enjoyed well over £100m (possibly closer to £200m?) as a direct result of his work. Is a £4m golden goodbye all that scandalous?

I thought he left them ? if so ....nowt !

 

[BadFish]

Why is this even a thing. Happens all the time in football. Seems like a reasonable ask from Wilder for everything he has done for the club.

One thing is for sure, they are in a better state now than when he joined.

I wonder what the Blade's supporters think?

Isn't Steve Bruce in for about the same amount if Newcastle choose to sack him?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Tho does have a stupidly-long contract courtesy of our Nice-But-Football-Naive chairman. Oh well. His ball, his rules

Come on Tommy, you're better than that.

Hyypia was obviously a big mistake but Poyet was a genius appointment before it all went wrong. Garcia was a VERY good coach. He had no right at all to get that squad into the playoffs when it was already in serious decline. We're all agreed on SH but then Sami happily fell on his sword and Hughton was the perfect pick to rescue us. After that comes the highlight of our recent history, surely?

I've vacillated on Potter to be sure but mostly because the noises around him coming in (whether the club intended it or not) were improvements in every area to the next level, which, to me, includes the league table. It's been a long while coming but even I can see we're on our way up now.

That's ONE bad coach in over a decade, who was out on his arse in months.

You do not become as successful as Tony Bloom by being naive in any way at all.

You've allegedly been a top man in business (before your brain clearly turned to mush ). At what point in your managerial selection process would you narrow that, er, selection down to a shortlist of three, interview all three candidates and then confidently declare:"YUP! Sami Hyypiä's the man for me! Anyone on the selection board that's on my payroll care to disagree? That's unanimous then '

Rinse and repeat for selection of gormless looking bloke off the novelty slot on Football Focus

Well WZ once employed ME so there's a good argument that his brain was mush 25 years ago

 

[Nameless]

As we know a good keeper makes all the difference, Henderson was a big part of their success last season. They used to win most of their games by the odd goal because Henderson pulled off save after save.

Ramsdale is a decent keeper though. I think there problem was believing there own hype after one flukey season as well as poor recruitment.

 

[Justice]

Ramsdale is a decent keeper though. I think there problem was believing there own hype after one flukey season as well as poor recruitment.

Not sure I would want him at the Albion to be fair he’s been relegated two seasons running.

 

[Nameless]

Not sure I would want him at the Albion to be fair he’s been relegated two seasons running.

I wouldn't want him here either.. But he's really not the problem with that team. Look at the defence in front of him for starters. Ramsdale is one of there better players as he was one of Bournemouths last season.

 

[chaileyjem]

That's ONE bad coach in over a decade, who was out on his arse in months.

Felice Mazzu, the coach of USG - appointed a year ago - turned out ok for Bloom too.

 

[Stato]

Ramsdale is a decent keeper though.

He may have promise, but his signing has to be considered as a potential example of the poor recruitment you mention. Sheff Utd sold him to Bournemouth for less than a million a few years back and, after a couple of lower league loans, he played the whole season for Bournemouth last year and they were relegated, conceding the third most goals in the league. Sheff Utd bought him back for over twenty times what they sold him for and are now getting relegated, currently conceding the third most goals in the league.

I know that keepers look good when they have a lot to do, but his is hardly an outstanding record. It was obvious that, at present, he is not capable of making the kind of difference that Henderson did to Sheff Utd's results last year. Very few would be. Henderson was third in the league for save percentages last year and, counting those who have played 5 or more matches, is top this year. Ramsdale was 15th last year and is 14th this year. Decent, perhaps, but not outstanding. If that level of decent is worth a reported £18M+, I wonder what the price of very decent and recently called up by Spain is.

 

[Weststander]

You've allegedly been a top man in business (before your brain clearly turned to mush ). At what point in your managerial selection process would you narrow that, er, selection down to a shortlist of three, interview all three candidates and then confidently declare:"YUP! Sami Hyypiä's the man for me! Anyone on the selection board that's on my payroll care to disagree? That's unanimous then '

Rinse and repeat for selection of gormless looking bloke off the novelty slot on Football Focus

In Potter In or Out polls you’ve asked for The Fence option.

But “the selection of gormless looking bloke off the novelty slot” and equating his reign with Hyppia’s do leave the impression that you’re very much Potter is crap.

 

[Swansman]

Come on Tommy, you're better than that.

Calling Dr. No.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Ramsdale is a decent keeper though. I think there problem was believing there own hype after one flukey season as well as poor recruitment.

Don't think you'll get much support for Ramsdale being a decent keeper though. Did your spellchecker change 'dodgy' to 'decent'?

 

[Badger Boy]

Ramsdale is a decent keeper though. I think there problem was believing there own hype after one flukey season as well as poor recruitment.

I totally disagree on that first part, and agree with the final part about recruitment.

Ramsdale is a sieve. He doesn't make saves you wouldn't expect, he's a bottom end PL goalkeeper at best and needs to a really strong defence in front of him. He hasn't had it in either of his PL seasons and has been relegated twice.

Sheffield United have been descimated by injuries to their key players this season. Their squad is deep with numbers but not with quality and they haven't recruited well enough to have talent coming through the club to cover. What we're looking to do is ensure a constant flow of players so that we're not so exposed by half a dozen first team injuries. But then, saying that - would we have been able to cope with losing White and Dunk at the same time as Webster? Who knows.

Anyway, in the summer we get Ostigard and Clarke back. Clarke is first team ready now, and is a left footed upgrade on Burn at left CB of a 3 or in a two. Ostigard I think is going to be fantastic but might still be a year or two too soon for him so he might go out again or if we do make a high value sale he will presumably be the main beneficiary. We will have one if not two new first team CBs without spending a penny. That's ultimately why we're going to continue to be competitive but it's easy to get a few wrong and find yourself without that talent coming through and having to spend your way to safety every season until it inevitably fails once and you're relegated.

 

[GT49er]

He may have promise, but his signing has to be considered as a potential example of the poor recruitment you mention. Sheff Utd sold him to Bournemouth for less than a million a few years back and, after a couple of lower league loans, he played the whole season for Bournemouth last year and they were relegated, conceding the third most goals in the league. Sheff Utd bought him back for over twenty times what they sold him for and are now getting relegated, currently conceding the third most goals in the league.

I know that keepers look good when they have a lot to do, but his is hardly an outstanding record. It was obvious that, at present, he is not capable of making the kind of difference that Henderson did to Sheff Utd's results last year. Very few would be. Henderson was third in the league for save percentages last year and, counting those who have played 5 or more matches, is top this year. Ramsdale was 15th last year and is 14th this year. Decent, perhaps, but not outstanding. If that level of decent is worth a reported £18M+, I wonder what the price of very decent and recently called up by Spain is.

Ramsdale - with two full seasons PL experience behind him, and still younger than our very large Spaniard. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited by the emergence of Big Bob, but I wouldn't write off Ramsdale in such a cavalier fashion as some on here have.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Ramsdale - with two full seasons PL experience behind him, and still younger than our very large Spaniard. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited by the emergence of Big Bob, but I wouldn't write off Ramsdale in such a cavalier fashion as some on here have.

Agree. Always looked steady when I’ve seen him.

 

[chaileyjem]

Sheffield United have been descimated by injuries to their key players this season. Their squad is deep with numbers but not with quality and they haven't recruited well enough to have talent coming through the club to cover. What we're looking to do is ensure a constant flow of players so that we're not so exposed by half a dozen first team injuries. But then, saying that - would we have been able to cope with losing White and Dunk at the same time as Webster? Who knows.

ha ! i doubt it. but losing March and Lamptey as well as Webster was quite the test for the back 5 (swapping out our keeper too) - and our form has substantiallly improved since January.