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[Food] Child food hampers







Albion in the north

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2012
1,516
Ooop North
Looks great.

Please could you deliver 1.4 Million of those next week, to 20,000 different sites? We'll pay you £14 per week*. I'll send you the list.



*Government have increased this from £10.50 per week from next week onwards.

Not sure what the point of your post is to be honest.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,436
Sod vouchers.

just send the list to a range of supermarkets with a list of recipeients, and a polite ORDER to deliver them.

get saids supermarkets to invoice @gov.uk. 120 day payments ( same as the supermarkets shaft their suppliers)

job done.

sensible.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,436
Because the government's recommendation is that school's provide lunch parcels.

I would assume this is because any voucher scheme comes with a heap of technology issues but also, the school's will already receive funding and have arrangements in place with meal providers. If they don't use them they will either waste money already spent or lead to financial pressures on the catering company and or their staff

probably. the existing catering have done something not set up to do.
 






GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
47,121
Gloucester
Which to me suggests the benefit system is wrong more than anything else.

Once or twice a year I go past the council estate flats where we had to live for 6 months to remind myself why I work hard and have been lucky in many respects . . . there were people taking the piss then and more now I'm sure, a lot of them have better cars than me.

If the benefit system was better planned/managed from up top it would get more directly/accurately targeted?

I can't answer for now - I left before the days of Universal Credit - but before that I wouldn't call it wrong, but it was flawed; it was open to abuse, and badly mismanaged at the top end. Particularly hampered by the perpetual setting of targets, which were often conflicting.
 


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,719
probably. the existing catering have done something not set up to do.
They would have done it April-July last year but yes it's not business as usual.
But the voucher scheme was only every intended for the extra monies over the holidays
 




Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,616
Brighton
It really does come to something when some are trying to agree whether it's worth £5.52 or £8.88 or £10.50.

Children can not be held responsible for the economic situation that their parents find themselves in.

There are 4.2 million children living in child poverty as calculated by government criteria. Only 1.4 million children qualify for free school meals. Spare a thought for the other 2.8 million.

At the other end of the spectrum, Crispin Odey made £115m from the Coronavirus crash - without doing a thing!
https://citywire.co.uk/wealth-manager/news/odey-makes-115m-in-coronavirus-crash/a1339044

Chartwells have won government contracts to the value of £350m since 2016.

These are eye-watering sums. And some people are arguing our children's future away over the difference between £5.50ish and £10ish. We've all lost the plot.

On vouchers, it makes sense. Govt gives families vouchers - vouchers get spent in shops - shops can afford to employ people and pay people - people get paid and pay tax. It's basically a closed loop and the govt doesn't lose the cash.
 










beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,436
Chartwells have won government contracts to the value of £350m since 2016.

is that all, or should be billion? wont cover the 1.4m over a year, let alone four.
 








keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,719
It really does come to something when some are trying to agree whether it's worth £5.52 or £8.88 or £10.50.

Children can not be held responsible for the economic situation that their parents find themselves in.

There are 4.2 million children living in child poverty as calculated by government criteria. Only 1.4 million children qualify for free school meals. Spare a thought for the other 2.8 million.

At the other end of the spectrum, Crispin Odey made £115m from the Coronavirus crash - without doing a thing!
https://citywire.co.uk/wealth-manager/news/odey-makes-115m-in-coronavirus-crash/a1339044

Chartwells have won government contracts to the value of £350m since 2016.

These are eye-watering sums. And some people are arguing our children's future away over the difference between £5.50ish and £10ish. We've all lost the plot.

On vouchers, it makes sense. Govt gives families vouchers - vouchers get spent in shops - shops can afford to employ people and pay people - people get paid and pay tax. It's basically a closed loop and the govt doesn't lose the cash.

What about the various companies who are contracted already to provide free school meals? They employ people and pay taxes? And due to the nature of some contracts will be paid even if they don't provide a service meaning more public spending.
 


ozzygull

Well-known member
Oct 6, 2003
3,927
Reading
Don't panic, the £30/£10.50 mix up is explained in this article

Free meals firm at centre of outcry was run by Conservative party donor

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/free-school-meals-tory-donor-rashford-b1786501.html

Sad, but I knew it would have links to this currupt inept goverment before I even started looking in to this. They seem to want to turn this country back to Dickens times. I am suprised they havn't suggest workhouses for the poor yet.
 


METALMICKY

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2004
6,223
Even if we put aside the ethics of your suggestion of people effectively being means-tested for the right to have a family, you are completely ignoring the possibility of changed circumstances.

What happens to children, born to tiberious-approved folk, who absolutely COULD afford to support them, but subsequently lose their jobs? Or get ill? Or have to retire through ill-health?

I've no idea if you are a dinosaur, and nobody has 'flamed' you, but your views are pretty ignorant.

This big time! Ignorance of the highest and let's hope hard times hit him soon for an abrupt wake up call.
 






maltaseagull

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2009
13,094
Zabbar- Malta
There is a continuing trend of profitable contracts being awarded by central governemt to dubious companies for services to the nation, funded by the state/tax payer. These contracts are not generally open to tender, or subject to scrutiny, and many of the companies have been set up specifically to take advantagfe of these facts, aided and abetted by members of the house. This constitutes a disgusting conflicy of interest and really should have stopped years ago. The tories are not the only ones but it would appear have really made the practice their own and what can only be described as the legal crime of the century.

The fact that in this instance dependant children from deprived backgrounds weill suffer as a consequence just further highlights how despicable, greedy, selfish, and uncaring our governemnent is. Shame on them. I can only pity the poor souls daft enough to have been hood winked by their election lies and fooled into voting from them.

I had dinner tickets for a few years aged 7-9, my Dad left, my mum was at home unable to work with 2 young boys to feed, I wouldn't have starved, but I got a decent lunch at Buckingham middle school, and it really made a difference. I remember there not being much in the cupboards at home and the struggle for a few years, council flat, B&B briefly. Mum never deprived us in any way, more likely deprived herself. I'll be forever grateful for that little bit of state help which saw us through a bad patch. to see half or more of that state aid going in a snakes pocket makes me extremely angry and sad, and further highlights what a horrible little country we've become.

Political views aside. The government has done a lot wrong but please look at post 17 above. There are some despicable people abusing the benefits system which affects the decent ones adversely.
 


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