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[Politics] Joe Biden vs Donald Trump *** Official Match Thread ***

Who's going to win?

  • Calling it for Trump

    Votes: 78 30.2%
  • Calling it for Biden

    Votes: 180 69.8%

  • Total voters
    258
  • Poll closed .


peterward

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Let's hope so. The betting market is moving really quickly against Biden right now.

I have the same feeling of dread I had watching the Brexit referendum results.

How is the market moving? I get that it is if you say so, but why?

He looks like hes generally slightly out performing Hillary, and Trump under performing 2016.

Watching Florida is like watching us away at Wolves under Hughton
 




nwgull

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Sky News hasn’t even mentioned h to e Miami numbers in Florida yet. Talking more about Georgia being close
 


Bozza

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How is the market moving? I get that it is if you say so, but why?

He looks like hes generally slightly out performing Hillary, and Trump under performing 2016.

Watching Florida is like watching us away at Wolves under Hughton

I can only think it's the sentiment being drawn from the Miami Dade numbers.

Or there is something else happening on another channel that I'm missing!
 


Gwylan

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The Betfair odds make me think I'm missing something not being reported on CNN.

The odds are approaching toss-of-a-coin territory. Trump could be the betting favourite very soon.

I called that hours ago. I said then that we shouldn't be reading too much in the fact that Biden was odds-on.

I said Trump would win at the beginning of this thread and I stand by that

(I'd love to be totally wrong though)
 


Happy Exile

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Guardian live map of the counties has Miami Dade as a Biden lead at the moment too. Seems to be slightly ahead of Sky news so far tonight.
 




Bozza

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Guardian live map of the counties has Miami Dade as a Biden lead at the moment too. Seems to be slightly ahead of Sky news so far tonight.

Yeah, Biden will win it, but his share of the vote is way down on Clinton last time.
 








nwgull

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Guardian live map of the counties has Miami Dade as a Biden lead at the moment too. Seems to be slightly ahead of Sky news so far tonight.

It’s a lead, but nothing like the lead Hillary had in the same county when she lost.
 








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Georgia and North Carolina are the ones to watch at the moment.
 




Weststander

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The Betfair odds make me think I'm missing something not being reported on CNN.

The odds are approaching toss-of-a-coin territory. Trump could be the betting favourite very soon.

At this incredibly early stage, are they formed from the betting of ultra savvy analysts? Or the subjective knee-jerk reactions of some punters shocked that early counting Florida might be GOP?

Betfair also shows:

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Bozza

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At this incredibly early stage, are they formed from the betting of ultra savvy analysts? Or the subjective knee-jerk reactions of some punters shocked that early counting Florida might be GOP?

It will be a mix, but time and time again Betfair odds have been shown to be an accurate representation of probability - it's a near-perfect marketplace.

But sentiment can send people running, in both directions, to trade out of a position or trade in.

Odds seem to have broadly settled on...

Biden 4/5
Trump 6/5
 




peterward

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All going with the polls so far. Early Texas looking interesting.

Im watching CNN, and its a tad confusing, as all states have different rules.....in a lot of the early numbers your not sure if that's in person today (more likely to favour Trump) or early votes (more likely to favour Biden)....... Its all gonna change.

Ohio looks the most promising, no Republican president has won without it in modern times, and Biden ahead 55-45 at about 55% counted, and they said thats a lot of in person with a lot of early votes still to come.
 




Weststander

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Im watching CNN, and its a tad confusing, as all states have different rules.....in a lot of the early numbers your not sure if that's in person today (more likely to favour Trump) or early votes (more likely to favour Biden)....... Its all gonna change.

Ohio looks the most promising, no Republican president has won without it in modern times, and Biden ahead 55-45 at about 55% counted, and they said thats a lot of in person with a lot of early votes still to come.

Same here, CNN, after flitting.

So much to know, in effect 50 countries with varying electoral rules eg some count the postal votes in the following days, some by the time the election stations close. Another nuance, rural votes reach state tallies later, giving Trump a late surge in Ohio, Georgia and North Carolina.
 




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