[Politics] Putin sacks the Russian PM Mr Medvedev and the Russian Parliment resigns

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I'm not sure yet but I will speak to my ex-communist bloc friend is a bit of an authority when it comes to explaining Putin.

I expect he will explain that Putin is caving out a Supreme Leader of Russia Role.

He's basically bored of actually having to actually do stuff as President, wants to take a "back seat" and take more time out bear wresting etc...

Such is his concern for the workload of the next President of Russia, he is going to lessen their powers constitutionally before he leaves.

He is very misunderstood.

What does your friend think of Bill Browder ?

Browder's view is that Putin has to retain power otherwise his personal house of cards will tumble. With the Magnitsky Act implemented in more countries there will be nowhere to go (worth going).

 

[Triggaaar]

It's actually a "managed democracy".

It's not, because that would require free and fair elections.

 

[blue-shifted]

Yep.... The despot is going nowhere.

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I'm thinking the same. That's the only hope now

 

[Swansman]

It's not, because that would require free and fair elections.

I think they are happy they dodged that bullet. Doubt they are very jealous about not having Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Emmanuel Macron, Jair Bolsonaro etc as their leader.

 

[BBassic]

At least they have an elected head of state

Sort of

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Communist democracy

Really? When most industry is privately owned by billionaires.

Totalitarian Capitalism?

 

[Machiavelli]

I recommend Bill Browder's book Red Notice. A remarkable read but Putin is a gangster.

Peter Pomerantsev's work is well worth reading.

 

[Machiavelli]

It's not, because that would require free and fair elections.

It's a widespread myth that democracy = elections. Democracy used to use rotation or lottery in order to select (although office held an extremely limited role), whereas elections were well known as an aristocratic device of selection. The founding fathers at least recognised that what they were introducing was something entirely different from democracy, which they named representation. Since then, the two terms have become conflated.
The best gauge of modern democracies is whether they permit the right of association and assembly, ie protest. On this, Putin fails spectacularly, so it's bizarre that [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] wants to defend him.

 

[Swansman]

The best gauge of modern democracies is whether they permit the right of association and assembly, ie protest. On this, Putin fails spectacularly, so it's bizarre that [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] wants to defend him.

No worse in Russia than anywhere else.

Of course you find it absurd:

The perspective that in the west we are superior at everything, more ethic, more developed etc is what we're brainwashed with from infancy. Its the key to motivating people to go bomb the shit out of other nations or doing neo-colonial "interventions" like installing western friendly (a.k.a. willing to hand over resources) leaders.

Strategy seems to work particularly well in the UK considering its historical and present eagerness to go abroad, kill people and steal their resources. Always justified by its moral superiority, and by feeding the population that all these ****ing foreigners not doing things exactly as in the UK needs and deserves to be crushed.

Of course not unique for United Kingdom. Portraying different countries or regions as enemies so that the common man in one country goes to kill the common man in another country is a timeless method, because it works.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Peter Pomerantsev's work is well worth reading.

Cheers.

 

[Boys 9d]

Isn't transferring power from the Head of State to a Parliament is what the English Civil War was all about?

 

[Machiavelli]

No worse in Russia than anywhere else.

Of course you find it absurd:

The perspective that in the west we are superior at everything, more ethic, more developed etc is what we're brainwashed with from infancy. Its the key to motivating people to go bomb the shit out of other nations or doing neo-colonial "interventions" like installing western friendly (a.k.a. willing to hand over resources) leaders.

Strategy seems to work particularly well in the UK considering its historical and present eagerness to go abroad, kill people and steal their resources. Always justified by its moral superiority, and by feeding the population that all these ****ing foreigners not doing things exactly as in the UK needs and deserves to be crushed.

Of course not unique for United Kingdom. Portraying different countries or regions as enemies so that the common man in one country goes to kill the common man in another country is a timeless method, because it works.

Ha. Your first sentence is just wrong and, yes, I will call that absurd. You then go on to make certain implications about what I think, which also are wrong. FWIW, I'm no fan of Anglophone politics and philosophy (NZ and Canada are a tad better than the other three), and am wary of Eurocentric Enlightenment approaches. In terms of political models, Scandinavia is one of the better ones that we've tried (although they've veered off course too much of late), and you get several decent attempts in Latin America, although they're far more difficult to achieve for historical and structural reasons.

 

[A1X]

The only way Putin will leave the Kremlin is in a wooden box I suspect.

 

[Triggaaar]

I think they are happy they dodged that bullet. Doubt they are very jealous about not having Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Emmanuel Macron, Jair Bolsonaro etc as their leader.

The Russians I know wish their country was run as ours is.

 

[Triggaaar]

It's a widespread myth that democracy = elections.

It's not a myth. It doesn't matter how democracy came about, but it is now a type of government where the members are generally elected.

The best gauge of modern democracies is whether they permit the right of association and assembly, ie protest. On this, Putin fails spectacularly, so it's bizarre that [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] wants to defend him.

It's not at all bizarre that Swansman wants to defend Putin - that's exactly the sought of ridiculous thing Swansman would do. He likes to argue with anything your average person considers normal. I imagine he's popped too many pills.

 

[GT49er]

I haven't been following the story, but I strongly suspect the chances of this being good news are on the low side.

 

[Swansman]

IIt's not at all bizarre that Swansman wants to defend Putin - that's exactly the sought of ridiculous thing Swansman would do. He likes to argue with anything your average person considers normal. I imagine he's popped too many pills.

Or maybe you popped too few

 

[Triggaaar]

Or maybe you popped too few

Indeed that may be the case

 

[AmexRuislip]

Vladimir Putin nominated for Nobel Prace Prize.

It is noted that the application for his nomination was submitted by Russian writer Sergei Komkov.

Nothing surprises me of anything odd, that comes out of Russia

https://112.international/politics/putin-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-media-54994.html

 

[Jim D]

It is noted that the application for his nomination was submitted by Russian writer Sergei Komkov.

Nothing surprises me of anything odd, that comes out of Russia

https://112.international/politics/putin-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-media-54994.html

It won't be easy as he's got Donald Trump to beat.