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[Weststander]

There will always be winning runs on football. But as Weststander said, you can't win long-term on it. Maybe the best chance is following lower league football. Notts County to win the National League is a good bet. They've won their last three in an open division where no team has convinced. I think they're around 9/1 now in sixth place and with the size of their squad and getting used to tiny away grounds, they'll snatch the title from a minnow like Barrow or Solihull Moors.

First goalscorer betting has been ruined by VAR. But I did Manchester City to beat Chelsea 3-1 a couple of months ago. Raheem Sterling wrapped it up in stoppage time but it went to VAR and they disallowed it with the last kick of the match for a fraction of offside! I told myself never to wager ever again on the PL.

I used to bet nearly every day but it's something I don't miss at all. Spend the money on people you really care about! It saves a lot of your time as well.

Too many variables, human factors, a sending off can alter everything, so much can go wrong.

I wasn’t betting then, but in Summer 2018 I made Sunderland cert’s to go up, probably automatically. They didn’t and now they’re languishing mid-table in L1. Saved myself a lost £100 stake.

Betting on Mansour’s $$$$ ManC gives a measly 1/6 if bookies are being generous, with the risk of a lost stake if an upset does happen.

Unrewarding, risky, easy to lose all your disposable money.

 

[Weststander]

If you’d have put a ton on Liverpool to win every league game this season you’d be raking it in. Given their incredible record and the poor standard of opposition and the fact they had an extra days rest today was a no brainier.

I agree. Leicester too, since Rodgers joined.

But hindsight’s a wonderful thing. Which neutral would’ve thought that Liverpool and Leicester would relentlessly win match after match? That’s normally the preserve of buy-trophies; Celtic, ManC, PSG, Juve and Bayern.

(I’m genuinely pleased you won today btw, always good to see).

 

[Durlston]

Too many variables, human factors, a sending off can alter everything, so much can go wrong.

I wasn’t betting then, but in Summer 2018 I made Sunderland cert’s to go up, probably automatically. They didn’t and now they’re languishing mid-table in L1. Saved myself a lost £100 stake.

Betting on Mansour’s $$$$ ManC gives a measly 1/6 if bookies are being generous, with the risk of a lost stake if an upset does happen.

Unrewarding, risky, easy to lose all your disposable money.

I didn't mean to stop betting to spend on your family individually. I meant everyone in general. With bookies closing, maybe they'll offer more generous in-shop odds. Ha!

At least I'll be saving money on NYE as I'd end up in tears if I had anything to drink.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

Well I guess with The Bundesliga returning at the weekend, many on line gamblers and the bookmakers will be glad.

I have never gambled on line, thank the lord, as I was shite in the bookies.

But how friggin desperate do you have to be to bet on.... table bloody tennis !!!

William Hill punters bet on table tennis in sports lull https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52673723

 

[Weststander]

I'll wait along time before betting, these are unique times eg empty stadia, players/clubs may all out of form, others may thrive after the break. Near certs such as Bayern almost always win, might not be so.

 

[Diablo]

Some teams will probably take to playing in empty Stadiums better than others. It may well upset the form book. The mega stars who feed of the adulation of their supporters may well find it hardest. The also rans may well take to it better. Look for some upsets.

Liverpool 0 Brighton 4

 

[crodonilson]

I'll wait along time before betting, these are unique times eg empty stadia, players/clubs may all out of form, others may thrive after the break. Near certs such as Bayern almost always win, might not be so.

Certainly a case of watch and learn, may have a small dabble on a few aways in the first week, not sure how much the bookies will have factored in the home advantage which, in my humble opinion, will be virtually obliterated in playing behind closed doors.

 

[neilbard]

Certainly a case of watch and learn, may have a small dabble on a few aways in the first week, not sure how much the bookies will have factored in the home advantage which, in my humble opinion, will be virtually obliterated in playing behind closed doors.

RB Leipzig v Freiburg value might be to side with Freiburg @ 9/1

 

[dazzer6666]

Some teams will probably take to playing in empty Stadiums better than others. It may well upset the form book. The mega stars who feed of the adulation of their supporters may well find it hardest. The also rans may well take to it better. Look for some upsets.

Liverpool 0 Brighton 4

Wait, we've got to play them away again ?

 

[giveusfalmerplease]

cant be bothered with foreign football. i'll save my bets for Brighton boys club year 10 vs Whitehawk academics C team . Whitehawk to win 11-8 with Bobs what's his name to score a hat trick between the 20 and 40th minute. Any takers odds of a least 100k/1 please so i can give the teams a good wedge to fix the result .

 

[Weststander]

Certainly a case of watch and learn, may have a small dabble on a few aways in the first week, not sure how much the bookies will have factored in the home advantage which, in my humble opinion, will be virtually obliterated in playing behind closed doors.

Digressing, did you do well on Liverpool to win match bets this season? I recall chatting about it, where I'd been deterred by the miserly odds, but your (in hindsight) correct point was that it happened with unnerving regularity.

My betting successes were on European (CL and EC) matches, FAC and LC, including some 'printing money' moments eg where Potter decided to play kids against a Villa team with a huge number of first team appearances under their belts.

 

[neilbard]

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Had a small gamble on Viktor Gyökeres v Nurnberg tomorrow.

 

[Baker lite]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49284169

How about taking some personal responsibility........Bookies don't make you bet........

Today’s mood music, everything has to be someone’s fault, personal responsibility has no place in modern society.

 

[Durlston]

RB Leipzig v Freiburg value might be to side with Freiburg @ 9/1

VAR disallowed a 93rd minute Freiburg winner. That is sickening. It was a difficult decision for the officials as well.

It's still lockdown in terms of sport and a bet for me.

 

[Sirnormangall]

cant be bothered with foreign football. i'll save my bets for Brighton boys club year 10 vs Whitehawk academics C team . Whitehawk to win 11-8 with Bobs what's his name to score a hat trick between the 20 and 40th minute. Any takers odds of a least 100k/1 please so i can give the teams a good wedge to fix the result .

Is it being played behind closed doors?

 

[neilbard]

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VAR disallowed a 93rd minute Freiburg winner. That is sickening. It was a difficult decision for the officials as well.

It's still lockdown in terms of sport and a bet for me.

I know, but I had already taken my profit.

 

[crodonilson]

Digressing, did you do well on Liverpool to win match bets this season? I recall chatting about it, where I'd been deterred by the miserly odds, but your (in hindsight) correct point was that it happened with unnerving regularity.

My betting successes were on European (CL and EC) matches, FAC and LC, including some 'printing money' moments eg where Potter decided to play kids against a Villa team with a huge number of first team appearances under their belts.

I gave up after the Liverpool v Wolves game. Given Liverpool's form and the fact Wolves were playing less than 48 hours after playing Man City with a wafer thin squad I thought the odds of 37/100 were extremely generous and had a very large amount on them to win the game and ultimately they got the job done but it was a lot closer than I expected.

I've done ok since the restart, backing trebles and four folds on aways in German football has bought a reasonable return. I've kept a watching brief mainly so far on the PL return but the trend does seem to be on 'under' goals in the handicap markeys, particularly first half. So far from 14 games 12 have produced under 1.5 first half goals, generally odds on this are around 1/3 so £10 stakes on each of these would give you approx £20 profit from £140 stake. Also slightly more risky but 9 of the 14 games (and 9 from 12 excluding Man City) have had under 0.5 half time goals, this generally a 6/4 chance so for £10 stakes you would have an £85 profit on all games since restart. No doubt it will all start going awry now I start gambling on it!

 

[Weststander]

I gave up after the Liverpool v Wolves game. Given Liverpool's form and the fact Wolves were playing less than 48 hours after playing Man City with a wafer thin squad I thought the odds of 37/100 were extremely generous and had a very large amount on them to win the game and ultimately they got the job done but it was a lot closer than I expected.

I've done ok since the restart, backing trebles and four folds on aways in German football has bought a reasonable return. I've kept a watching brief mainly so far on the PL return but the trend does seem to be on 'under' goals in the handicap markeys, particularly first half. So far from 14 games 12 have produced under 1.5 first half goals, generally odds on this are around 1/3 so £10 stakes on each of these would give you approx £20 profit from £140 stake. Also slightly more risky but 9 of the 14 games (and 9 from 12 excluding Man City) have had under 0.5 half time goals, this generally a 6/4 chance so for £10 stakes you would have an £85 profit on all games since restart. No doubt it will all start going awry now I start gambling on it!

Thanks for replying.

I’ve had three bets so far, genuinely all wins, I like mainly doing lay bets (risky, you can lose badly), winning £70 on:

ManC scoring 3 or more vs Burnley.
Brighton not winning at Leicester.
West Ham not winning at Spurs.

 

[wellquickwoody]

I spent three days in Vegas in early May, staying in a hotel on the strip. What was most amazing was how every shop turned into a casino - even a Walgreens! You walked to the back of the store and boom, casino. It was bonkers beyond description. As a reformed gambler, I had no problems at all in ignoring the temptation and instead getting pleasantly drunk in the bars and watching all the sports on the huge bank of screens on one wall. It was a paradise of sporting entertainment and the serving ladies very quickly left my friend and I alone, knowing we weren't going to be splurging.

To echo what others have said, the psychology of the place is amazing. Constant music from the gaming machines, no sense of time or reality, oxygen constantly being pumped in and loads of winning jingles being played all the time from the various one arm bandits around. So easy to get trapped, but of my group of 4, only one of us pumped $10 in a machine and walked away with a pay out slip of $0.79, which she kept for the memory. We then had to stop her pumping in another $10, because that's how the problems begin!

Final thought on the casinos in Vegas, what few people spot is the CCTV cameras overhead. I pointed them out to my group as we walked in and they couldn't believe it, every inch of the ceiling was covered by them. There is nothing they're not seeing the whole time you are there.

What is the point of Vegas if you are not gambling? You can see a ‘show’ in a thousand places around the world, you can watch sport on TV in millions of places. I don’t get Vegas, and I will very occasionally have a little flutter.