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Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
18,671
Valley of Hangleton
Jesus mate, obviously you are highly strung by the the way you chucked in the usual put downs and have taken this to a different level to where it should be.
I’m guessing you were embarrassed in Year 6 and it’s stayed with you all these years so when someone has a little pop you can’t let it go. Even bringing into play the old “ everyone can see” line.

Lay of the gangster rap and listen to some chill out choons.

Get your flak jacket ready, he hasn’t got it in him to just ignore what you’ve said.

Like year 6’s in the playground. [emoji23]
 




NooBHA

Well-known member
Jan 13, 2015
8,588
I think that’s a bit unfair . I’m not cowardly to type or say anything . I always speak from the heart . I don’t know about the other user you are mentioning but I post a bit over a variety of topics , to say that I’m obsessed with race is not true . Just count up my posts . There are many users who post a lot more about race than I do but for some reason , you seem to have highlighted me ! Is it because you don’t agree with me .


To a certain extent I think that you are attacked personally on here and I don't like to see the personal attacks on anyone.

That said. You don't engage with the the people who try to engage with you on an Academic Level. Some people challenge your archaic views and put forward strong contrasting views to your own.

You seem to ignore those contrasting arguments and won't address historical facts put to you. You simply gloss over people's questions to you. And you not only gloss over people's questions but you repeat the views which you have again. Thus leaving other posters frustrated. Because the courteously address your views but you won't address theirs . Especially if their post challenge you with intellectual historical facts.

That behaviour leaves posters frustrated with you.

I don't like seeing you being persecuted or verbally attacked for your views but I can understand why you frustrate some people.

If it is simply because you don't have enough knowledge in a subject to respond to a post.

Go look up the facts on things. I promise you. If you open your mind to knowledge. You will empower yourself. So long as it's to factual teaching and not indoctrination. Which is what we have in our schools.

My schooling bears absolutely no resemblance on the facts in relation to history. I Han to totally unlearn a lot of what I was taught and it is the best thing I ever did.
 


D

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The worrying thing to me is that I think you might actually be serious given the lack of emojis !

That's a bit assumptive, sometimes its just right not to show any expression, I have been doing it for years, of course this is used only on certain posters. Ps not you.:lol:
 


Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
6,735
The response to all political threads on this board are very predictable, as you intimated. Are you therefore suggesting that either [MENTION=34864]Live by the sea[/MENTION] should not be allowed to open a discussion, or that nobody should be allowed to?

A surprising interpretation of a little bit of light hearted leg pulling. Do I really have to clarify that I am not proposing that anyone be banned from starting threads? My implication was merely that, if you choose to poke a bear, don't then complain about bear growls.
 


LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
Jesus mate, obviously you are highly strung by the the way you chucked in the usual put downs and have taken this to a different level to where it should be.
I’m guessing you were embarrassed in Year 6 and it’s stayed with you all these years so when someone has a little pop you can’t let it go. Even bringing into play the old “ everyone can see” line.

Lay of the gangster rap and listen to some chill out choons.

What a very odd conclusion to come to. :lolol:

partridge shrug.gif
 






Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
13,895
Almería
Yeah, a musician's one.

Is that you on the sax in the profile pic? Surely, you'd deem the likes of Kamasi Washington, who was one of a host of jazz musicians involved in Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly, to be a musician. But Lamar's album is not music?
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
6,735
Yeah, a musician's one.

I'm not much of a fan of gangster rap, but then I don't think it was aimed at me. The 'rap' s not music' argument is a bit outdated though. Rap and hip-hop, punk and disco were seventies New York's gift to the world. As a music, hip-hop has proven itself multi-varied, hugely significant and massively influential. It's shown staying power and has been the basis for some of the most original new forms of musical expression to have emerged over the last five decades.The "that,s not singing" argument could be equally applied to Lou Reed, Tom Waits, Mark E Smith, John Lydon and countless other rock artists. It doesn't matter. I have always found with music that if you try to meet it halfway and understand it's intent, you'll more than likely get something from it. By dismissing an entire style, you're missing an opportunity to enrich your experience.
 




OzMike

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Oct 2, 2006
13,015
Perth Australia
Is that you on the sax in the profile pic? Surely, you'd deem the likes of Kamasi Washington, who was one of a host of jazz musicians involved in Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly, to be a musician. But Lamar's album is not music?

Yep, that is me on my alto, playing with my band Hawkstone, I play clarinet and am vocals as well.
I know of and have listened to many players over the years, but not really a fan of these crossovers to try and make it more acceptable.
I would accept it more as spoken verse to a backing track, which is usually written by someone else.
'Poetry' rather than music.
 
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OzMike

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Oct 2, 2006
13,015
Perth Australia
I'm not much of a fan of gangster rap, but then I don't think it was aimed at me. The 'rap' s not music' argument is a bit outdated though. Rap and hip-hop, punk and disco were seventies New York's gift to the world. As a music, hip-hop has proven itself multi-varied, hugely significant and massively influential. It's shown staying power and has been the basis for some of the most original new forms of musical expression to have emerged over the last five decades.The "that,s not singing" argument could be equally applied to Lou Reed, Tom Waits, Mark E Smith, John Lydon and countless other rock artists. It doesn't matter. I have always found with music that if you try to meet it halfway and understand it's intent, you'll more than likely get something from it. By dismissing an entire style, you're missing an opportunity to enrich your experience.

Ok, from the word 'punk' onwards I can get, but nothing before.
I have heard enough of it, mind you none of my kids like it either, to know it is not for me.
One man's ceiling is another man's floor.
 


Beach Seagull

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Jan 2, 2010
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It's funny. That's almost EXACTLY what [MENTION=15278]Beach Seagull[/MENTION] always says and what do you both have in common? He was banned for trolling and so were you under your previous user name. You both seem to dislike the Guardian. You both seem to be on threads about race far too often, always with an innocent face on, snidely implying things between the lines because you're both too cowardly to type them and press "Submit Reply".

The only difference is you are a massive, massive snob and he is a massive, massive anti-snob. Yet you never seem to cross swords. How odd. Clearly it's ok to be a snob if you read the right paper, dislike the same music and spend most of your sad little existences trolling a football message board for a "laugh".

No I was banned not for trolling but for having the 'wrong' views. Are you able to provide some examples of my 'snide between the lines' posts please? So I'm a 'sexist' and a 'racist' but I've said if the Albion had a disabled, muslim lesbian as a manager who steered us to safety I'd be very happy, you can't get much more 'inclusive' than that.

How do you know I have a 'sad little existence' ? How do you define it?
 


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Beach Seagull

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Jan 2, 2010
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I banned you for trolling. You openly admitted you were only here to wind up the NSC "lefty liberal elite". The admin note on your ban, visible to all moderators says "trolling" as does my check message on the mods WhatsApp.

https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?376000-Beach-Seagull

I do like winding up the nsc liberal elite however the views that 'achieve' this are what I believe in, I would express them regardless of whether it winds other posters up or whether every poster on here said 'yes totally agree with you'. Its a chat forum which means it will attract views from all different viewpoints.
 




Live by the sea

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Oct 21, 2016
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That’s reassuring. It’s healthy to sometimes think out of the box , look at issues from more than one viewpoint . It does seem to be that the majority or perhaps it’s just the posters on NSC that shout the loudest are drawn from quite a narrow viewpoint . That’s not healthy for debate or this message board .
 


BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
12,513
That’s reassuring. It’s healthy to sometimes think out of the box , look at issues from more than one viewpoint . It does seem to be that the majority or perhaps it’s just the posters on NSC that shout the loudest are drawn from quite a narrow viewpoint . That’s not healthy for debate or this message board .

I think what's interesting is that, coming from a liberal lefty type like me, I often see, or perceive, that it's the other side doing much of the shouting and goading. Seems both sides of any argument will see it that way ie of being the voice of reason in the face of waves of unrelenting antagonism.

It's partly why I never really bother to debate. I'm not going to change anyone's mind unless I mine some golden vein of persuasive argument, so why bother? All that'll happen is some internet shouting and then me slinking off to talk to my similar minded friends about an argument I "won". Nobody wins really.

But as we're on the subject of "gangsta" rap, I'll drop this in, powerful words from, by his own admission, a "thug"

 


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