Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[beorhthelm]

I think the main concern for me around 5g is it’s just not been tested properly in terms of effects on us and our environment and is now being rolled out across the globe for financial gain. It may be hypocritical but I’m actually involved in some 5g roll out projects through work and had a really good chat with an O2 engineer. They are essentially assuming that the historical understanding of frequencies on humans means 5g will be ok without actually spending time to actually prove it.

The 5g industry is going to be worth billions to the telcos and governments selling the licenses so it really does feel like profit before people to me.

did your engineer note some roll outs are using same frequencies as Wifi, while the other band is ex military and telecoms, in use for decades?

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

You are not going to find the answers you need on NSC. Please go talk to your GP or an epilepsy support group. You can not remove risk. Everything you do including breathing, has a risk attached to it. The trick is to manage the ones that you can control and ignore the ones you can't, especially if the likelihood is extremely low.

So you're 100% sure G5 isn't harmful enough for it to be considered irresponsible rolling it out everywhere during this Covid 19 outbreak?

If so, I hope you're right. Just wish there was better proof

 

[CheeseRolls]

So you're 100% sure G5 isn't harmful enough for it to be considered irresponsible rolling it out everywhere during this Covid 19 outbreak?

If so, I hope you're right. Just wish there was better proof

Please take my advice and try to avoid twisting my words. I am 100% sure that 5G can be harmful. I would always advise hang glider pilots to wear protective head gear for example.

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

Please take my advice and try to avoid twisting my words. I am 100% sure that 5G can be harmful. I would always advise hang glider pilots to wear protective head gear for example.

I haven't twisted your words. Read again but more carefully.

So you're 100% sure G5 isn't harmful enough for it to be considered irresponsible rolling it out everywhere during this Covid 19 outbreak?

The reason for the question is that we're supposed to be taking no risks which could put our health in danger, hence the lockdown. So if you're not 100% then why aren't you questioning it too? Surely for a time like now where 1000s of lives are being lost to Covid 19, this G5 rollout is ridiculous? I don't care about the conspiracies linked with it, it just seems like an insane and totally needless operation for a time like now.

 

[Albion Dan]

A quick google points to loads of articles on the safety of 5G to humans all neatly summarised in the mainstream media.
If you are really concerned you could of course plough through some scientific papers (TLDR),
Nope the best route is to have a conversation with the bloke who is trying to attach a bit of telecoms kit to the wall and then plug the right cables into the right holes. He (or she) is bound to know whats going down.

A guy fitting some kit? I was talking to O2s most senior engineer who has helped design the system. I work at board room level for a £bn business in digital and talk to telco directors frequently. But make yourself feel better by convincing yourself it was a chat with a fitter. There are many documents that claim 5g is safe and many that say it isn't (I can provide you these if you wish). I'm not saying it is definitely bad but what is lacking are actual tests in the real world before till out and the telcos will admit this.

 

[Albion Dan]

did your engineer note some roll outs are using same frequencies as Wifi, while the other band is ex military and telecoms, in use for decades?

The frequencies can be altered. Certain frequencies achievable through 5g have been tested by the military to see if they can be weaponized.

 

[Guinness Boy]

If you must know and want to declare to everyone on NSC about this new NSC account of mine. Ask Bozza. I only created this account so I could get my previous account open. I've completly forgotten all my previous passwords. I told him who I was straight away so I don't understand why this is being brought up by you on a thread subject which has been the most serious thing since WW2?

How did you ask Bozza if you couldn't get into your old account? How would creating a new one get you back into the old one?

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

How did you ask Bozza if you couldn't get into your old account? How would creating a new one get you back into the old one?

Just ask him. I can't be arsed with this sort of shit on a thread like this mate. It will only result in you telling me I'm derailing it...

 

[Guinness Boy]

Just ask him. I can't be arsed with this sort of shit on a thread like this mate. It will only result in you telling me I'm derailing it...

No answer to this or the previous question then? I have done btw so let's hope he backs you up......

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

No answer to this or the previous question then? I have done btw so let's hope he backs you up......

And when he does, fancy giving this shit a break? You were wrong about me being 2 accounts at the same time which you constantly reminded me of for years and years. How about not doing that again and just being civil to each other whilst setting a better example on NSC?

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[WATFORD zero]

I came on this thread which I thought was supposed to be about Covid 19, but seems to have gone off at a bit of a tangent lately. Out of interest, from this post where you originally bought up your previous account.

I've got epilepsy. It's gran mal seizures I suffer from, the most dangerous of seizures. On average people who get them usually suffer from around 3/4 a year. I was having around 6 a year, and then it suddenly went up to 30 a year. The last one I had was very serious and has completly wiped all my short term memory away. I can't remember things like local street names and the password to my NSC account so ended up having to make this account. I'm sure you can work out who I am.

Sorry to hear about your problems, but two quick questions.

1. If you can't remember the password to your account, why didn't you use the 'forgotten password' thing ?
2. Maybe I'm being thick, but I can't work out who you are, so could you tell me your previous Username(s) ?

Thanking you kindly

 

[RossyG]

Just open a thread called Coronavirus and 5G then everyone will be happy.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Just open a thread called Coronavirus and 5G then everyone will be happy.

That's what I suggested 2 days ago.

 

[Guinness Boy]

And when he does, fancy giving this shit a break? You were wrong about me being 2 accounts at the same time which you constantly reminded me of for years and years. How about not doing that again and just being civil to each other whilst setting a better example on NSC?

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You haven't answered the question about CV19's association with your 4G / Grand Mal theory. I've asked three times and you've dodged it every single time. You've derailed the thread to the point where others are now getting fed up, so stay on topic as you agreed or else.

As for the account, you are stretching the truth somewhat. We both now know what went on and I suggest we both leave it there.

 

[RossyG]

That's what I suggested 2 days ago.

https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?380003-5G-and-Coronavirus&p=9341276#post9341276

Here it is.

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

I came on this thread which I thought was supposed to be about Covid 19, but seems to have gone off at a bit of a tangent lately. Out of interest, from this post where you originally bought up your previous account.



Sorry to hear about your problems, but two quick questions.

1. If you can't remember the password to your account, why didn't you use the 'forgotten password' thing ?
2. Maybe I'm being thick, but I can't work out who you are, so could you tell me your previous Username(s) ?

Thanking you kindly

Don't worry about it mate, all can be confirmed from Bozza. But finding out or not, Its not really a big deal though is it? Infact this is sad.

Let's get this back to the thread subject.

 

[sydney]

Where did you hear that? https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...fused-to-vaccinate-his-children-idUSKBN22B26Z

which bit..?? the 3.7 million was quoted on radio yesterday but today its "aproaching 4 million" confirmed cases.

 

[sydney]

I haven't twisted your words. Read again but more carefully.

So you're 100% sure G5 isn't harmful enough for it to be considered irresponsible rolling it out everywhere during this Covid 19 outbreak?

The reason for the question is that we're supposed to be taking no risks which could put our health in danger, hence the lockdown. So if you're not 100% then why aren't you questioning it too? Surely for a time like now where 1000s of lives are being lost to Covid 19, this G5 rollout is ridiculous? I don't care about the conspiracies linked with it, it just seems like an insane and totally needless operation for a time like now.

i'm with you mate ......hardly a priority is it ......millions of people in lock down with loads of cheap labour out on the streets erecting towers and pulling cables.......if that makes sense to you then you can do my next tax return........it stinks but i think i bought it up 2 months ago and got ridiculed...ho hum.

 

[Jeff Minton's Corners]

You haven't answered the question about CV19's association with your 4G / Grand Mal theory. I've asked three times and you've dodged it every single time. You've derailed the thread to the point where others are now getting fed up, so stay on topic as you agreed or else.

As for the account, you are stretching the truth somewhat. We both now know what went on and I suggest we both leave it there.

I don't have a 4G theory. I'm questioning the links it might have with something I'm going through right now. Read back through and you'll see that was pretty obvious.

What really needs answering is why the 2 times I've ever admitted to what I'm going through on here, the other being a few years back, both times I've been questioned on it from you?

And what's with the post "your head couldn't be that f@cked if you were able to post the above" in relation to me talking for the one and only time about my epilepsy? It's horrible, but more concerning is how you see no wrong in this and will show no signs of stopping. This went on 2 days ago now and hadn't been mentioned by me since. It stopped because you said it was derailing the thread and made a huge point about how important it is to keep this thread in subject and how my 4G speculation deserves no place on this thread . Now 2 days later you're asking me why I haven't answered your questions on this apparent 4G theory I'm preaching? WTF!?

You're making yourself look like a bellend when you're probably a decent bloke. New leaf?

 

[RossyG]

I don't have a 4G theory. I'm questioning the links it might have with something I'm going through right now. Read back through and you'll see that was pretty obvious.

What really needs answering is why the 2 times I've ever admitted to what I'm going through on here, the other being a few years back, both times I've been questioned on it from you?

And what's with the post "your head couldn't be that f@cked if you were able to post the above" in relation to me talking for the o e and only time about my epilepsy? It's horrible but more concerning how you see no wrong in this and will show no signs of stopping. This went on 2 data ago. So it stopped because you said it was derailing the thread and made a huge point about how important it is to keep this thread in subject and how my 4G speculation deserves no place on this thread . Now 2 days later you're asking me why I haven't answered your questions on this apparent 4G theory I'm preaching? WTF!?

You're making yourself look like a bellend when you're probably a decent bloke. New leaf?

https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?380003-5G-and-Coronavirus

Dedicated 5G thread.