[Albion] Dominic Cummins

[drew]

The way he's being painted in sections of the press, he's almost like a modern day Rasputin.

Let's hope for his sake he doesn't go the same way

Let's hope for our sake he does!

 

[Soylent Blue]

https://politics.theonion.com/exper...nZ1UvUkIyX3xDAW7-rYoQoc4dcI_liiIric9EYhovxiHI

 

[Soylent Blue]

I think BoJo is taking a Trumpian view of the world and its problems, or to be specific the "deep state". This is where people in the system follow their own agenda, not really left or rightwing, which is seen as to be a detriment to the public good or democratic will. In the US this in part comes under the hubris of rogue elements in the security services. In the UK this can be seen as the BBC, The Supreme Court and large parts of the Civil Service which are overwhelmingly Remainers.

In this sense Cummings is just the hatchet man for BoJo, who in turn reps for the electorate.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

From the many meetings that I have had with the civil service over many years, this is not a representation that I recognise. The civil service are very much aware of the current issues and solutions.

Hmmm ..... I really hope you don't include the DWP in your praise ! Worst run government department in the WORLD. Bonus for Cummings though ..... most of it's employees are weirdos and misfits".

 

[A1X]

I can't see him without immediately thinking about Stewart Pearson (the "helicopter thinking" guy) from The Thick Of It

 

[WATFORD zero]

Hmmm ..... I really hope you don't include the DWP in your praise ! Worst run government department in the WORLD. Bonus for Cummings though ..... most of it's employees are weirdos and misfits".

I thought Iain Duncan Smith was in the middle of sorting that department out

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I thought Iain Duncan Smith was in the middle of sorting that department out

Needs scrapping entirely and every employee made to visit one of their job centres to see what an awful service they provide. Really, bar the odd exception, they are rude, ignorant, don't understand the real job market and treat you like a criminal. Hence why I call them Dicks, W@ankers and Pr1cks.

 

[dingodan]

He reminds me a bit of Putin.

Pretty much nobody has actually heard him say more than a few words, but everyone hates him and knows for certain that he is evil.

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

I think BoJo is taking a Trumpian view of the world and its problems, or to be specific the "deep state". This is where people in the system follow their own agenda, not really left or rightwing, which is seen as to be a detriment to the public good or democratic will. In the US this in part comes under the hubris of rogue elements in the security services. In the UK this can be seen as the BBC, The Supreme Court and large parts of the Civil Service which are overwhelmingly Remainers.

In this sense Cummings is just the hatchet man for BoJo, who in turn reps for the electorate.

Did you just say the BBC are overwhelmingly remainers? Crikey... if they are, I don’t remember them representing me once since before the election.

As to your initial point, it could be summed up with the word “dictatorship”. That’s what they’re after, in a roundabout way.

 

[JBizzle]

Did you just say the BBC are overwhelmingly remainers? Crikey... if they are, I don’t remember them representing me once since before the election.

As to your initial point, it could be summed up with the word “dictatorship”. That’s what they’re after, in a roundabout way.

I find the BBC argument utterly tiresome. "There's no balance", "they're all remainers", "they're all leavers"... To be honest, I think they could do better and didn't handle the election as well as they could, but it's more to do with the fact people are so frenetically tribal now that any opinion that isn't yours is deemed "anti" your agenda. Even moderation isn't a realistic position to take now because if you're hard left/right, you're not in complete agreement, so "anti" my agenda.

You only have to look at the ludicrous response directed at Yorkshire Tea because the new chancellor was seen with a bag of it. I'm left of the spectrum and even I think that's insanity. People just need to chill the eff out and spot being to vitriolic and reactionary.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I find the BBC argument utterly tiresome. "There's no balance", "they're all remainers", "they're all leavers"... To be honest, I think they could do better and didn't handle the election as well as they could, but it's more to do with the fact people are so frenetically tribal now that any opinion that isn't yours is deemed "anti" your agenda. Even moderation isn't a realistic position to take now because if you're hard left/right, you're not in complete agreement, so "anti" my agenda.

You only have to look at the ludicrous response directed at Yorkshire Tea because the new chancellor was seen with a bag of it. I'm left of the spectrum and even I think that's insanity. People just need to chill the eff out and spot being to vitriolic and reactionary.

I'd suggest that the BBC piss off all 'sides' somewhat suggests they achieve their objective of being balanced. Off course you have the tin foil hat brigades on both sides claiming plants ( without any evidence ) in shows etc but by and by, the BBC does a very good job.

 

[LlcoolJ]

I find the BBC argument utterly tiresome. "There's no balance", "they're all remainers", "they're all leavers"... To be honest, I think they could do better and didn't handle the election as well as they could, but it's more to do with the fact people are so frenetically tribal now that any opinion that isn't yours is deemed "anti" your agenda. Even moderation isn't a realistic position to take now because if you're hard left/right, you're not in complete agreement, so "anti" my agenda.

You only have to look at the ludicrous response directed at Yorkshire Tea because the new chancellor was seen with a bag of it. I'm left of the spectrum and even I think that's insanity. People just need to chill the eff out and spot being to vitriolic and reactionary.

Spot on.

 

[Soylent Blue]

Did you just say the BBC are overwhelmingly remainers? Crikey... if they are, I don’t remember them representing me once since before the election.

As to your initial point, it could be summed up with the word “dictatorship”. That’s what they’re after, in a roundabout way.

Should of put a comma after Civil Service, or phrased it clearer.

 

[Norman Potting]

You can imagine my surprise when, heading off to collect a Potting and her young gentleman from sixth form, I spotted a white pickup branded "D Cummins Building & Groundworks". It looked as though he had sneaked over the Kent border to "do a job" in my part of North Sussex, amazed that he could find the time. I had to share the news with a friend who is a huge Cummins fan (not). He pointed out that it couldn't be that D. Cummins as this one built things, not demolished them

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

I find the BBC argument utterly tiresome. "There's no balance", "they're all remainers", "they're all leavers"... To be honest, I think they could do better and didn't handle the election as well as they could, but it's more to do with the fact people are so frenetically tribal now that any opinion that isn't yours is deemed "anti" your agenda. Even moderation isn't a realistic position to take now because if you're hard left/right, you're not in complete agreement, so "anti" my agenda.

You only have to look at the ludicrous response directed at Yorkshire Tea because the new chancellor was seen with a bag of it. I'm left of the spectrum and even I think that's insanity. People just need to chill the eff out and spot being to vitriolic and reactionary.

The BBC debate is one for another time, but I think your points are fair enough. My issue is more with QT, which has moved progressively more right wing over the last two years to the point now where I rarely see anyone on there that I can relate to. I’ve stopped watching as a result of the painful propaganda.

And in this sense, I was merely questioning the guy who stated it was a leftie show - it most certainly isn’t. I don’t think it’s even remotely central now. It’s become a hard right show at times (and I know people that have to do the crowd for it - they’ve been explicitly told to get far right activists in the audience).

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

I'd suggest that the BBC piss off all 'sides' somewhat suggests they achieve their objective of being balanced. Off course you have the tin foil hat brigades on both sides claiming plants ( without any evidence ) in shows etc but by and by, the BBC does a very good job.

I know someone who does the QT audience. They do plant people, specifically at the moment from the far right.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The BBC debate is one for another time, but I think your points are fair enough. My issue is more with QT, which has moved progressively more right wing over the last two years to the point now where I rarely see anyone on there that I can relate to. I’ve stopped watching as a result of the painful propaganda.

And in this sense, I was merely questioning the guy who stated it was a leftie show - it most certainly isn’t. I don’t think it’s even remotely central now. It’s become a hard right show at times (and I know people that have to do the crowd for it - they’ve been explicitly told to get far right activists in the audience).

Me too. It turned into a gammon fest a while back and is now unwatchable.

 

[beorhthelm]

I know someone who does the QT audience. They do plant people, specifically at the moment from the far right.

not quite sure what this should matter much, its up to the panel to address the questions. personally i cant stand it anymore, its been soundbites and pithy response for some time.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Me too. It turned into a gammon fest a while back and is now unwatchable.

I thought it was just me getting more left wing as I got older. Maybe it's me, but I'm sure dumb questions based on lies were called out by the chair long before they got put to the panel in the old days.

After years of watching BBC news that has now been binned off in favour of Channel 4. When so called journalists are incapable of picking up a politician on the most simple and blatant lie I do wonder where they were trained or what research they have done

*edit* Or what brief they are given

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I thought it was just me getting more left wing as I got older. Maybe it's me, but I'm sure dumb questions based on lies were called out by the chair long before they got put to the panel in the old days.

After years of watching BBC news that has now been binned off in favour of Channel 4. When so called journalists are incapable of picking up a politician on the most simple and blatant lie I do wonder where they were trained or what research they have done

*edit* Or what brief they are given

Well, when PL football commentators and expert guests on radio 5 demonstrate that they don't understand the laws of the game, what chance our political journalists (or TV entertainment presenters - the job description has become blurred) will recongnise a politician's lies?

They should though.

Perhaps the BBC has now embraced the post-fact 'fake news' world and accepts that when something is repeated confidently it may as well be allowed to stand.

In fairness to them, any attempt to say 'hang on a moment' in an attempt to uphold standards (the entry level being to not actively allow falsehoods to be propagated without question) is probably perceived to be a career ending move, with the prime minister (Dominic Cummings) likely to have you marched out of the building without warning if you question his tropes. BBC employees are, after all, 'public servants', and therefore owned by Cummings. I'm only half joking here.