[Albion] Are we going to regret letting Glenn Murray go - again?

[peterward]

If we’re being told that we’re creating chance after chance, with Maupay and Connolly fluffing their lines, perhaps Muzza could tuck some of them away.

He would, plus the 1st Bournemouth goal tonight, is just the sort of goal we could score with Murray on the pitch, Dunk, Stephens, Propper, Gross, March, Trossard, Ali J all have the ability to ping one to him as an out ball, put Maupay next to him and he'll possible get more clear cut chances than trying to play it through the opposition back 4 as a lone striker. Its what Burnley do every week with Wood and Barnes.

Not advocating going purely long ball, but some variation on what is clearly toothless and failing at present. We're in the shit and its not the time for philosophy or certain styles, we're crying out for some pragmatism to try and get the ball in the net by any means possible. Tika Taka/long ball who gives a f***. With Murray we have a few viable options which are being completely ignored in favour of a totally out of form teenager.

 

[Deadly Danson]

And was it not Murray who almost scored twice near the end at Everton to gain a point?
He is needed in what is now a relegation struggle.

Just what we need, someone who "almost scores". Murray is a legend but he's looked well off the pace whenever he's appeared this season.

 

[Weststander]

Just what we need, someone who "almost scores". Murray is a legend but he's looked well off the pace whenever he's appeared this season.

Something needs to change regardless, Connolly is currently out of his depth.

 

[Deadly Danson]

Something needs to change regardless, Connolly is currently out of his depth.

The problem is it's always "the other" that is better. If Bissouma doesn't start then he's the answer, same with Duffy. If Trossard starts he's not always effective but when he's on the bench he's the one we need. We look awful whenever Murray plays but as soon as he doesn't come on he's the saviour. I don't know what the answer is other than the players who start bloody playing well enough to keep their place to start with.

 

[peterward]

Something needs to change regardless, Connolly is currently out of his depth.

of course we can never know..... but I wander, if we had an Alladyce type figure, a Nigel Pearson etc. If they would play Murray and Duffy. My hunch, which is of course unprovable, is they would use them. Their experience in just these types of situations, Duffys nous and Murrays goal scoring record is exactly what is needed in this scrap. Theyre leaders, theyre fighters and they should form part of the spine for the fight ahead.

 

[bhafc99]

Connolly is a good prospect, but there is absolutely no question that Murray should have come on instead of him last night.

He has the footballing brains to have won several free kicks around the box, lost his marker for a few shots and headers, held the ball up then laid it off for Maupay etc etc.

Instead we bring on a teenager who ran around eagerly, but in the end contributed nothing of the savvy and experience we needed to try and claw something back at 0-2. No criticism of Aaron, but it’s the wrong approach given the situation we’re now in.

I 100% felt replacing CH was the right call, but am starting to worry that Potter is so welded to certain principles that we’re going to send ourselves down.

What was that comment that seemed to be on NSC non-stop around this time last year? Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome, something like that?

Think it’s back in play. We need to accept that developing youth, playing pretty possession patterns and so on can’t be all we ever do.

The likes of Watford and Southampton have pulled their socks up and fought their way back from the brink. We need to start doing the same. Urgently.



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[DarrenFreemansPerm]

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[Uh_huh_him]

The problem is it's always "the other" that is better. If Bissouma doesn't start then he's the answer, same with Duffy. If Trossard starts he's not always effective but when he's on the bench he's the one we need. We look awful whenever Murray plays but as soon as he doesn't come on he's the saviour. I don't know what the answer is other than the players who start bloody playing well enough to keep their place to start with.

He has had less than 180 minutes in the last 20 games.

Looking off the pace would be understandable, but he hasn't . In all the games I have seen he has held the ball up. laid it off and got into good positions.
Potter has decided he isn't the option for the future so he isn't the option for the present. understand the sentiments... but wrong choice right now.

 

[Stat Brother]

Murray appears to be enjoying the very best 'not playing therefore a saviour' status money can buy.

He wouldn't have 'saved' last night, hasn't saved any other games this season.
He's saved only one possibly two games over the last 12 months.

There's absolutely nothing to suggest anything other than our tally of offsides would have increased were Murray to have come on.


The discussion should be:-

'why the hell was the only viable option a 19 year old?'

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

The most worrying and glaring thing to me that probably speaks volumes more than anything about the club & Murray’s thoughts at the moment is that Glenn is “looking” to move on, to get away and is even prepared to travel away from Withdeanshire....

I am sure Glenn would stay if he was used slightly more or if he felt comfortable with Potter and his management skills....

 

[nwgull]

The problem is it's always "the other" that is better. If Bissouma doesn't start then he's the answer, same with Duffy. If Trossard starts he's not always effective but when he's on the bench he's the one we need. We look awful whenever Murray plays but as soon as he doesn't come on he's the saviour. I don't know what the answer is other than the players who start bloody playing well enough to keep their place to start with.

LOL. This time last year Connolly was the saviour waiting to come in and score loads of goals. It was just Hughton being too stubborn and blocking the progress of an 18 year old who’d only ever played at U23 level and a couple of league cup matches.

 

[Icy Gull]

Murray is not the answer imo. As Stat alluded to, it’s amazing how much better players become when they’re not playing. Murray is past it now and I hope we are on the point of loaning him to a Championship club with a younger similar style striker coming in. If not we are almost certainly going down because we don’t have the presence of a player up front who strikes fear into defenders, forcing them into errors.

 

[Stat Brother]

LOL. This time last year Connolly was the saviour waiting to come in and score loads of goals. It was just Hughton being too stubborn and blocking the progress of an 18 year old who’d only ever played at U23 level and a couple of league cup matches.

It's all ok though, Molumby will save us.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Is it just BHA fans that can't move on, and hold this incessant sense of nostalgia resulting in not knowing when 'time is up' for players?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Murray appears to be enjoying the very best 'not playing therefore a saviour' status money can buy.

He wouldn't have 'saved' last night, hasn't saved any other games this season.
He's saved only one possibly two games over the last 12 months.

There's absolutely nothing to suggest anything other than our tally of offsides would have increased were Murray to have come on.


The discussion should be:-

'why the hell was the only viable option a 19 year old?'

You could be right, but Murray was every bit as much a viable option than Connolly last night.
Connolly is a prospect, but at the moment all he really does is fall over and not win a free kick/penalty.


the question remains... if you aren't going to bring him on when 2-0 down..... why have him on the bench at all?

Seems to be a disrespectful way of treating someone who has served the club well.
Have the balls to say to him - "sorry you aren't in my plans"

 

[raymondo]

At his age he needs game time to stay sharp- he was given very little. Bad choices from Potter.

 

[Farehamseagull]

Murray appears to be enjoying the very best 'not playing therefore a saviour' status money can buy.

He wouldn't have 'saved' last night, hasn't saved any other games this season.
He's saved only one possibly two games over the last 12 months.

There's absolutely nothing to suggest anything other than our tally of offsides would have increased were Murray to have come on.


The discussion should be:-

'why the hell was the only viable option a 19 year old?'

Spot on.

 

[pb21]

I was jesting, but we really do not know what Murray wants to do, do we?

He wants to score goals, I expect he would like to score goals for us.

 

[Lower West Stander]

Murray is not the answer imo. As Stat alluded to, it’s amazing how much better players become when they’re not playing. Murray is past it now and I hope we are on the point of loaning him to a Championship club with a younger similar style striker coming in. If not we are almost certainly going down because we don’t have the presence of a player up front who strikes fear into defenders, forcing them into errors.

Younger similar striker? Who exactly?

And what could they do that Murray can’t? He’s a proven goal scorer who’s hardly played this season. Where are the proven players out there who would be an improvement for the rest of the season? Going to a Championship striker would be pointless as we would have no idea they could cut it and no premier league could sell to a rival.

End of the season and if we stay up maybe. But not now....


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[Icy Gull]

Younger similar striker? Who exactly?

And what could they do that Murray can’t? He’s a proven goal scorer who’s hardly played this season. Where are the proven players out there who would be an improvement for the rest of the season? Going to a Championship striker would be pointless as we would have no idea they could cut it and no premier league could sell to a rival.

End of the season and if we stay up maybe. But not now....


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I am not privy to the recruitment team’s targets so have no idea who, as neither am I a European or PL scout

Relying on Murray is just plain crazy imo, although yes I would have brought him on over Connolly who has not impressed for a while now and gets swatted away by defenders.

With our current strike force in any combination we’ll do very well to score the goals we need. Murray has done enough over the last two seasons to be that man but from halfway through last season he looked a spent force. Do you really expect him to play full games again now?