[Offers] What religion are you?

[RossyG]

So does that mean you can use half of a condom?

It means he can use it but she can’t.

 

[Megazone]

Oh dear.... Are you trying to suggest athiesm is a religion/belief? If so i dont think you understand being atheist you dont have a beleif or religion so nothing to push onto others, athiest arent a cult if they were there would be a written beleif system and we would call it a religion.
What next from you , "gravity is only a theory" or " you cant prove there isnt a god"

and there was me thinking atheism was based on the belief that everything is just a coincidence?

unless you're referring to agnosticism?

 

[Bulldog]

No, Atheism is a lack of belief in god, it is not a belief in anything , and I think you know that.

 

[symyjym]

The universe has an incredible order. Very specific rules that allows it to exist like it does... the laws of physics, chemistry and biology - life itself - are all apparently fine-tuned to allow for its, and our, existence. Even in an infinite universe, could such order occur without some kind of conscious influence? If you repeat something infinitely, if an outcome is impossible, it will remain impossible an infinite amount of times.

The rules of the universe are very specific, and universally useful, to the point that every physical law, every chemical element, has some kind of usefulness to allow for our existence... and when you also take into account the "miracle" of biology, or life itself, the chance of it happening the way it has - a perfectly designed universe to allow for our existence - a life that can flourish anywhere, and evolve to overcome any kind of hurdle... it seems that atheism requires as much faith, if not more, than theism.

So to answer your question, without the vast laws of the universe there would be no order, just pure chaos, where everything and nothing happens all at once. Perhaps the universe can only exist if there is a conscious entity to observe its order, laws and time. And maybe it did not come from nothing - maybe it always existed. As human beings, it easy to get obsessed over the concept of "beginning" and "end" - but in a timeless realm, it doesn't make sense for something to have "come from nothing", if it has always been.

You say all this but it is not one that can be described as one of the Abrahamic man made Gods. What you are saying is closer to a pantheist understanding of God, not one that plays us like chess pieces, testing us with a threat of eternal hell for just not believing.

 

[Megazone]

Oh dear.... Are you trying to suggest athiesm is a religion/belief? If so i dont think you understand being atheist you dont have a beleif or religion so nothing to push onto others, athiest arent a cult if they were there would be a written beleif system and we would call it a religion.
What next from you , "gravity is only a theory" or " you cant prove there isnt a god"

No, Atheism is a lack of belief in god, it is not a belief in anything , and I think you know that.

What is the difference between agnostic and atheist?

Atheism is about belief or, specifically, what you don't believe. An atheist doesn't believe in any gods.

Agnosticism is about knowledge or, specifically, about what you don't know. An agnostic doesn't know if any gods exist or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

So which one are you? Someone whose view on god is about belief or someone whose view on god is about knowledge?
Pretty sure you put yourself in the belief group, not the knowledge one.

Oh and what was that about gravity you mentioned?

Let me guess, you think the earth is flat too?

 

[Eeyore]

Nobody gets the origins of species. Nobody. Even scientists can't get their heads around the fact that you cannot create something from nothing. So if there was always something where did that come from ? There is no evidence that the universe grew from nothing.

And, how did things survive long enough to procreate ? How did offspring survive ?

It all smacks of some kind of blueprint. But where did that come from ?

I never got the answer from preacher or scientist.

No-one ever will.

 

[Bulldog]

What is the difference between agnostic and atheist?

Atheism is about belief or, specifically, what you don't believe. An atheist doesn't believe in any gods.

Agnosticism is about knowledge or, specifically, about what you don't know. An agnostic doesn't know if any gods exist or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

So which one are you? Someone whose view on god is about belief or someone whose view on god is about knowledge?
Pretty sure you put yourself in the belief group, not the knowledge one.

Oh and what was that about gravity you mentioned?

Let me guess, you think the earth is flat too?

WTF, are you drunk? I havent mentioned gravity, and of course the Earth is flat FFS

 

[Megazone]

WTF, are you drunk? I havent mentioned gravity, and of course the Earth is flat FFS

Surrey_Albion mentioned gravity hence why I quoted him. You're calling yourself atheist but yet seem to disagree that atheism is based on belief rather than knowledge, which is why i'm calling you an atheist preacher. You're calling other peoples beliefs "Bollocks" because they're different to yours. Thats very flat earth-esque I'm afraid .

I don't believe everything happened out of Coincidence, you do. Sorry that offends you. Prove to me where you are correct? If you can with facts I might change my stance on this, but in the mean time, just accept (and i respect this might be tough for you) just because someone believes something different to you doesn't mean you need to chuck your views down their throat insisting what they believe is (in your words) "Bollocks".

Many people will disagree with your beliefs in how the world/life came about so you really need to figure out a better way of preaching your beliefs without sounding like some deluded fruitcake trying to recruit people away from their own beliefs.

You have no knowledge or proof atheism is correct but seem to think it's fact. You're the nutter here i'm afraid, and that's coming from me.

PS So the world is flat too? (i really hope you;re joking)

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Together with indoctrination from an early age religion has always needed poverty and ignorance to flourish. As people slowly become more educated and prosperous its grip will weaken.

This has already started to happen with the Internet which has allowed access to information and alternate views and opinions and allows people to make up their own minds instead of having to accept the belief system of their parents which was forced onto them.

 

[sydney]

Together with indoctrination from an early age religion has always needed poverty and ignorance to flourish. As people slowly become more educated and prosperous its grip will weaken.

This has already started to happen with the Internet which has allowed access to information and alternate views and opinions and allows people to make up their own minds instead of having to accept the belief system of their parents which was forced onto them.

which is why the internet is banned in certain areas....

 

[sydney]

just out of interest why is muslim 2nd in your poll choices........it isn't 2nd either alphabetically or in % per capita so why is it second..??..just asking .

 

[Wellesley]

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[RossyG]

...and of course the Earth is flat FFS

I don’t think it is because ships disappear over the horizon, which proves curvature. Also you can see it’s round from photos taken from space.

 

[BBassic]

Question for the believers in here - do you also believe in things like aliens, ghosts etc etc ?

I ask because I don't believe in God or a supreme being but, strangely you might think, I do believe in aliens and ghosts and life beyond the grave.

I draw the line at werewolves. And vampires.

 

[Bulldog]

Surrey_Albion mentioned gravity hence why I quoted him. You're calling yourself atheist but yet seem to disagree that atheism is based on belief rather than knowledge, which is why i'm calling you an atheist preacher. You're calling other peoples beliefs "Bollocks" because they're different to yours. Thats very flat earth-esque I'm afraid .

I don't believe everything happened out of Coincidence, you do. Sorry that offends you. Prove to me where you are correct? If you can with facts I might change my stance on this, but in the mean time, just accept (and i respect this might be tough for you) just because someone believes something different to you doesn't mean you need to chuck your views down their throat insisting what they believe is (in your words) "Bollocks".

Many people will disagree with your beliefs in how the world/life came about so you really need to figure out a better way of preaching your beliefs without sounding like some deluded fruitcake trying to recruit people away from their own beliefs.

You have no knowledge or proof atheism is correct but seem to think it's fact. You're the nutter here i'm afraid, and that's coming from me.

PS So the world is flat too? (i really hope you;re joking)

I am now convinced that you sir, are a wind up merchant and a very good one. I am concerned that I fell for it

I dont preach, i simply refuse to accept the preaching of others without good evidence. They (you) need to prove their preaching s, I dont need to prove an alternative, I am not stating anything, you know that.
I am offended only by your refusal to accept that others have views that differ to yours, but thats your problem.I am not trying to recruit I am stating that I dont agree, thats it.

 

[OzMike]

No place for religion in today's society imho

This.

 

[Megazone]

I am now convinced that you sir, are a wind up merchant and a very good one. I am concerned that I fell for it

I dont preach, i simply refuse to accept the preaching of others without good evidence. They (you) need to prove their preaching s, I dont need to prove an alternative, I am not stating anything, you know that.
I am offended only by your refusal to accept that others have views that differ to yours, but thats your problem.I am not trying to recruit I am stating that I dont agree, thats it.

Pretty sure you're stating on here which beliefs are correct and incorrect.

No one has told you your non-beliefs are bollocks. Only you are doing that to others. We are going round in circles here. Just be a bit politer about other peoples beliefs when you yourself have such strong faith in the power of coincidence which you clearly can't back up because it's not fact. atheism is very much like the flat earth theory where you believe in what it appears through how the eyes see it only. That's fair enough, go for it but just try not to offend others in the process like you did when you entered the thread stating that all other forms of belief/non-belief are bollocks other than yours.

I'm sure you're a decent bloke and I doubt you would say that sort of stuff to someones face when they may mention their personal faith, so lets keep thing peaceful and in my belief loving.

 

[Bulldog]

Fair enough. But I assure you, my non-beliefs have been referred to as such by religious people who think anything other than, god did it, is Bo""""ks.

However, my comment was not intended to offend and I apologise if you or anyone else took offence. I just find it so hard to believe that any educated adult could think its true on such lack of evidence.

Anyway sir, its been a pleasure, enjoy your day.

 

[Megazone]

Fair enough. But I assure you, my non-beliefs have been referred to as such by religious people who think anything other than, god did it, is Bo""""ks.

However, my comment was not intended to offend and I apologise if you or anyone else took offence. I just find it so hard to believe that any educated adult could think its true on such lack of evidence.

Anyway sir, its been a pleasure, enjoy your day.

You sound more like an agnostic then an atheist with this post. Maybe you're just a bit confused and not educated in what you're trying to say ? either way, it's a beautiful day. Let's not let our beliefs/non beliefs ruin that, especially when we're going to be smashing muff 3-0 in the not too long future.

God bless and enjoy this day

 

[dangull]

Only if they come up with a form of travel significantly greater than light speed. Wormholes or some such.

Beetlejuice is, in terms of the cosmos, just around the corner and it’s about 725 light years away ....


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Have you not watched Star Trek before? The Federation, Klingons, Romulans among others travel at Warp speed without difficulty