[Politics] Would a Boris Johnson PM gives the Tories are wider appeal?

[Kinky Gerbil]

BBC had to swiftly cut coverage of 4000 boy scouts singing Oh Jeremy Corbyn this morning at a rally, can't have people seeing that on TV and thinking he is popular

That’s just weird, what ever the party.

 

[carlzeiss]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-conservative-party-15-points-ahead-of-labour


Poll shows Conservative party 15 points ahead of Labour

In wake of party conferences, a third of voters also said Johnson would make the best prime minister over Corbyn

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-conservative-party-15-points-ahead-of-labour


Poll shows Conservative party 15 points ahead of Labour

In wake of party conferences, a third of voters also said Johnson would make the best prime minister over Corbyn

Johnson’s short time as PM has been an utter travesty. How anyone can think that blithering idiot makes a good PM is beyond me.

 

[Motogull]

Johnson’s short time as PM has been an utter travesty. How anyone can think that blithering idiot makes a good PM is beyond me.

Yeah but to many he is the least worse option of the two main contenders.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Johnson’s short time as PM has been an utter travesty. How anyone can think that blithering idiot makes a good PM is beyond me.

Brexit was a huge protest vote. Whatever anyone's varied reasons for voting to leave, those who haven't changed their minds will have the perception that parliament has done all it could to stop us leaving the EU. Boris is seen as someone who is committed to achieving that aim. Therefore it is of no surprise that Johnson is seen by many in a good light. I would suggest that had he been PM instead of May, we would have already left with a deal.

 

[GT49er]

The fact is that the vast majority of Labour members want to remain in Europe. As you saw in the European elections they have left him in droves and seemingly mostly didn't vote.

The actual fact is that the traditional Labour heartlands are the strongest pro-leave areas in the country. The reason the Labour vote dropped off is because the Labour Party is hell-bent on ignoring its traditional heartlands in pursuit of a momentum driven socialist dream (plus an incompetent and unelectable leader whose favourite seat is a fence).

 

[GT49er]

Brexit was a huge protest vote. Whatever anyone's varied reasons for voting to leave, those who haven't changed their minds will have the perception that parliament has done all it could to stop us leaving the EU.

Perception? You think it's only a perception? Really, seriously?

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Yeah but to many he is the least worse option of the two main contenders.

Yeah, I mean on the one hand we have a man and party who have resided over a rise in poverty, homelessness, homeless deaths, food bank use, cuts to the NHS, cuts to education, cuts to police... and on the other, we have a man who wants to fund our health service, education service, police properly... Tough choice...

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

Brexit was a huge protest vote. Whatever anyone's varied reasons for voting to leave, those who haven't changed their minds will have the perception that parliament has done all it could to stop us leaving the EU. Boris is seen as someone who is committed to achieving that aim. Therefore it is of no surprise that Johnson is seen by many in a good light. I would suggest that had he been PM instead of May, we would have already left with a deal.

Boris is only committed to achieving that aim because it will benefit him personally. He’s happy to sell the rest of us down the river if it helps his career and his financial backers generate more wealth. But of course, he’s only got to come with a tag line or barely transparent finger pointing exercise to get Brexiteers frothing at the mouth with rage over how the nasty EU is REALLY the bad guy in this situation or how it’s anyone else’s fault but his.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Perception? You think it's only a perception? Really, seriously?

Probably not the strongest word I could have used but nevertheless:

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Boris is only committed to achieving that aim because it will benefit him personally. He’s happy to sell the rest of us down the river if it helps his career and his financial backers generate more wealth. But of course, he’s only got to come with a tag line or barely transparent finger pointing exercise to get Brexiteers frothing at the mouth with rage over how the nasty EU is REALLY the bad guy in this situation or how it’s anyone else’s fault but his.

You may well be right. But the point stands that he will be very popular with a lot of people if he gives them what they were promised.

Your post demonstrates well the idea about perception. It really is simple, those who feel he will do the things they like will like him, those that think he is not doing what they want won't.

 

[El Presidente]

You may well be right. But the point stands that he will be very popular with a lot of people if he gives them what they were promised.

Your post demonstrates well the idea about perception. It really is simple, those who feel he will do the things they like will like him, those that think he is not doing what they want won't.

Yet he voted three times against the agreed deal which would have had us out of the EU months ago.

 

[midnight_rendezvous]

You may well be right. But the point stands that he will be very popular with a lot of people if he gives them what they were promised.

Your post demonstrates well the idea about perception. It really is simple, those who feel he will do the things they like will like him, those that think he is not doing what they want won't.

But No-Deal was never an option during the 2016 referendum and Johnson himself labelled the notion as absurd and ‘project fear’. That’s not perception. That’s fact.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Yet he voted three times against the agreed deal which would have had us out of the EU months ago.

I am in no way defending him. MPs of all persuasions have acted appallingly imo to get us to this sorry state we now find ourselves in. Too much self interest evident at Westminster.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

But No-Deal was never an option during the 2016 referendum and Johnson himself labelled the notion as absurd and ‘project fear’. That’s not perception. That’s fact.

You asked how anyone could support him. I gave valid reasons why. I don't think he's been consistent at all. He is one of many MPs that have been far too 'clever'. And I mean on all sides.

 

[studio150]

Yet he voted three times against the agreed deal which would have had us out of the EU months ago.

And didn't Mrs May at the time say that no UK PM would ever agree to have a customs border in the Irish Sea, which Johnson is now proposing.
Maybe with hindsight Mrs May should have said 'No competent UK PM would ever...'

 

[El Presidente]

I'm surprised that Johnson hasn't taken the 'my deal or no deal' approach to his present divorce proceedings though. It's almost as if he's aware that there has to be an agreement and compromise for both parties in relation to his personal circumstances but doesn't think the same principle applies to the country.

 

[Swansman]

I heard this man for the first time today after reading about him for several years. I was sort of surprised he wasnt the fat, dumb stupid piece of bitch media says he is. I can see how he appeals to a lot of non-mainstream people. Sort of fascinating. Combined with other world events however, he is probably pretty dangerous. Interesting.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I heard this man for the first time today after reading about him for several years. I was sort of surprised he wasnt the fat, dumb stupid piece of bitch media says he is. I can see how he appeals to a lot of non-mainstream people. Sort of fascinating. Combined with other world events however, he is probably pretty dangerous. Interesting.

I find him interesting and I think he is a far more clever politician than his detractors would give him credit. I don't hate him, but there again he is doing some things which happen to coincide with some of my ideals so that is natural. He is an opportunist though which is not really ever admirable.

 

[vegster]

You may well be right. But the point stands that he will be very popular with a lot of people if he gives them what they were promised.

Your post demonstrates well the idea about perception. It really is simple, those who feel he will do the things they like will like him, those that think he is not doing what they want won't.

It all depends on the much trumpeted " Benefits " of leaving Europe, if a GE is called very soon after Brexit it may well go against him if the initial 3 months or so after leaving turn in to the cluster**** predicted. If it's not too bad he might get in on a tide of hope and optimism before the Unicorn free reality kicks in after 6 months or so when we realise most of us are worse off.