[News] Hope everyone has their thoughts and prayers ready ..........again

[Megazone]

Do they not have Fortnite in Serbia then? You've just agreed with his point.

The Sandy Hook killer used his mums gun.

Surely that could happen in Serbia?

 

[Juan Albion]

This guy drove more than 650 miles to shoot Hispanics. The fault lies with two people: the shooter, Patrick Crusius, and Donald Trump. Rhetoric has consequences. The shooter himself seeks to clear Trump, saying his beliefs predate Trump, but it is Trump that has created the atmosphere where people go out specifically to shoot latinos.

His manifesto starts like this:

"In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion."

 

[LlcoolJ]

The Sandy Hook killer used his mums gun.

Surely that could happen in Serbia?

Read the above.

Oh and Fortnite didn't exist then.

America is a different beast and it's nothing to do with video games.

 

[Megazone]

Yeah, and I bet they all had two arms and a dick as well - that should definitely be looked into.

Mega, nearly all kids play these games, and very, very few are murdering other people. There have been many studies on the effect of violent games on behaviour and it is no different to other media. Games companies have been taken to court for this shit, they always win because the evidence is not aligned with what you are suggesting. Nobody can yet do a decent study on mass shootings because they are so rare. But frankly, the fact it only happens in the States should tell you it’s highly unlikely to be the games - which are played everywhere.

I’m not saying there is no link to people getting more aggressive if they play or watch aggressive things for all their waking hours. I’m sure there is, just makes sense. But building a correlation between that and mass murder is too far.

I don’t need to even read those links, I’ve seen that shit for twenty years. Lazy journalism / sensationalism - build a link between two things and sell some papers.

Yes, very few kids who play these games end up killing people, that's obvious, but you don't need many kids to go into a school and shoot a load of people. Even if it's just a handful of kids who are vulnerable to the influence these murderous games have, that's more than enough for me to say kids playing with virtual reality guns is a danger.

I know it's very off topic but the aaron Campbell murder of a 6 year old girl definitely has a link with the computer game he was obsessed with. He literally played out what happens on the game. Yes, he was diagnosed as a psychopath and would've probably committed his offence at some stage in his life had it not be then, but the fact remains, a teenager who worshipped an evil computer game character who kidnapped kids and murdered them, then goes out and does exactly that.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Yes, very few kids who play these games end up killing people, that's obvious, but you don't need many kids to go into a school and shoot a load of people. Even if it's just a handful of kids who are vulnerable to the influence these murderous games have, that's more than enough for me to say kids playing with virtual reality guns is a danger.

I know it's very off topic but the aaron Campbell murder of a 6 year old girl definitely has a link with the computer game he was obsessed with. He literally played out what happens on the game. Yes, he was diagnosed as a psychopath and would've probably committed his offence at some stage in his life had it not be then, but the fact remains, a teenager who worshipped an evil computer game character who kidnapped kids and murdered them, then goes out and does exactly that.

FFS. It's NOT to do with playing games. Otherwise every kid would be a nutter. Picking up a gun and murdering people.

You cannot account for actual psychopaths by saying "well they played this game".

How would you explain all the serial killers and mass murderers before there were any video games?

The increase in mass killings is due to the easy access to ridiculously powerful weapons and the lack of mental health help in the US.

All studies say that.

Wrong tree barking up you are.

 

[FatSuperman]

I know it's very off topic but the aaron Campbell murder of a 6 year old girl definitely has a link with the computer game he was obsessed with. He literally played out what happens on the game. Yes, he was diagnosed as a psychopath and would've probably committed his offence at some stage in his life had it not be then, but the fact remains, a teenager who worshipped an evil computer game character who kidnapped kids and murdered them, then goes out and does exactly that.

Read what you’ve just written. You blame the computer game?. It could just as easily have been a book or film or limerick! It could have been a historical recounting someone told him about Jack the Ripper. Blaming games might make sense but it is categorically NOT the cause for mass killings. Look at stats, you will note that America has a very high number of guns and a very high number of mass shootings. Almost half the number of guns in THE WORLD are in the States, with less than 5% of the population.

It’s irrelevant anyway. After Sandy Hook it was over - once Americans accepted that it was ok for children to die as a price of having unrestricted gun access, the argument was over. Your opinion and my opinion are just pi55 off a duck’s back to those twats in America.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Yes, very few kids who play these games end up killing people, that's obvious, but you don't need many kids to go into a school and shoot a load of people. Even if it's just a handful of kids who are vulnerable to the influence these murderous games have, that's more than enough for me to say kids playing with virtual reality guns is a danger.

I know it's very off topic but the aaron Campbell murder of a 6 year old girl definitely has a link with the computer game he was obsessed with. He literally played out what happens on the game. Yes, he was diagnosed as a psychopath and would've probably committed his offence at some stage in his life had it not be then, but the fact remains, a teenager who worshipped an evil computer game character who kidnapped kids and murdered them, then goes out and does exactly that.

Oh and banging on about that one lad proves nothing. He would obviously have always been a wrong un. Fortunately he was caught before he did more damage.

Nothing to do with playing games.

 

[FatSuperman]

The increase in mass killings is due to the easy access to ridiculously powerful weapons and the lack of mental health help in the US.

All studies say that.

I think the number of killings from people with mental health issues is actually in line with other nations, so it’s probably just the mental number of guns they have. Yemen has the second-highest number of guns per head, and guess where they are on the mass shootings list... second!

 

[LlcoolJ]

Read what you’ve just written. You blame the computer game?. It could just as easily have been a book or film or limerick! It could have been a historical recounting someone told him about Jack the Ripper. Blaming games might make sense but it is categorically NOT the cause for mass killings. Look at stats, you will note that America has a very high number of guns and a very high number of mass shootings. Almost half the number of guns in THE WORLD are in the States, with less than 5% of the population.

It’s irrelevant anyway. After Sandy Hook it was over - once Americans accepted that it was ok for children to die as a price of having unrestricted gun access, the argument was over. Your opinion and my opinion are just pi55 off a duck’s back to those twats in America.

Virtual 5.

 

[Megazone]

Read what you’ve just written. You blame the computer game?. It could just as easily have been a book or film or limerick! It could have been a historical recounting someone told him about Jack the Ripper. Blaming games might make sense but it is categorically NOT the cause for mass killings. Look at stats, you will note that America has a very high number of guns and a very high number of mass shootings. Almost half the number of guns in THE WORLD are in the States, with less than 5% of the population.

It’s irrelevant anyway. After Sandy Hook it was over - once Americans accepted that it was ok for children to die as a price of having unrestricted gun access, the argument was over. Your opinion and my opinion are just pi55 off a duck’s back to those twats in America.

Read my previous posts. I'm not putting all the blame on computer games. I've mentioned how isolation, a lack of community and unscreened psychopaths all play their part.
My point is that we shouldn't just blame the weapon. Things like murderous compute games also have an influence proven by the above example. (aaron Campbell)

Putting all the blame on gun laws is just as stupid as putting all the blame on a computer game.

 

[FatSuperman]

 

[LlcoolJ]

I think the number of killings from people with mental health issues is actually in line with other nations, so it’s probably just the mental number of guns they have. Yemen has the second-highest number of guns per head, and guess where they are on the mass shootings list... second!

But, but, but. Trump would say that's a shithole....

 

[LlcoolJ]

Read my previous posts. I'm not putting all the blame on computer games. I've mentioned how isolation, a lack of community and unscreened psychopaths all play their part.
My point is that we shouldn't just blame the weapon. Things like murderous compute games also have an influence proven by the above example. (aaron Campbell)

Mate. I know you're alright. But you're making a right cock of yourself. I'd stop if I were you.

 

[Megazone]

Mate. I know you're alright. But you're making a right cock of yourself. I'd stop if I were you.

I don't see what's wrong with discussing all possibilities?

 

[FatSuperman]

Read my previous posts. I'm not putting all the blame on computer games. I've mentioned how isolation, a lack of community and unscreened psychopaths all play their part.
My point is that we shouldn't just blame the weapon. Things like murderous compute games also have an influence proven by the above example. (aaron Campbell)

The one thing you are not blaming so far is the access to weapons. Which is the ONLY DIFFERENTIATOR between what happens in the States and everywhere else in the world.

It’s like Alanis Morrisette famously said;
“It’s like blaming 393 million guns, when all you need is a blanket ban on the graphical portrayal of violence in interactive media”

 

[Megazone]

The one thing you are not blaming so far is the access to weapons. Which is the ONLY DIFFERENTIATOR between what happens in the States and everywhere else in the world.

It’s like Alanis Morrisette famously said;
“It’s like 393 million guns, when all you need is a blanket ban on the graphical portrayal of violence in interactive media”

again, read my first post on this thread. I've stated that I don't believe guns should be legal.

 

[LlcoolJ]

I don't see what's wrong with discussing all possibilities?

The ones that have already been discussed you mean? And children keep being murdered in America? Ok.

 

[Megazone]

The ones that have already been discussed you mean? And children keep being murdered in America? Ok.

Sorry i'm really not trying to be rude, but you've lost me there?

 

[FatSuperman]

again, read my first post on this thread. I've stated that I don't believe guns should be legal.

Dude I’m just trying to convince you that it’s not related to computer games. I’m glad you know guns are stupid - wouldn’t imagine anything less from a normal Brit. And I’m not saying I think violent games are good - I just don’t think they’re the danger you are suggesting. And not do any of the studies done on the topic. The debate is good, I shall summarise for latecomers:

Violent computer game - not great
Guns - not great
Massive quantities of guns - the reason for massive quantities of mortal injuries

 

[LlcoolJ]

again, read my first post on this thread. I've stated that I don't believe guns should be legal.

Of course they shouldn't. It's basic common sense. How can anyone argue against that point?