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[Albion] ***Player Ratings vs Wolves***



Kneon Light

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Funny, I thought he was a little inconsistent at the start, then brilliant, then came the haircut and loss of strength...... [emoji23].

Know what you mean though, surely in top 3 over the season.


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Game of opinons - he would be one of my bottom 3.
I think Stephens has been better most of the season and really don't get some people's negativity toward him (missed Cardiff game so cannot comment on that match).
Yesterday I think Stephens played really well but still some people are giving him really low marks - just don't get why.
I also thought he looked more comfortable playing with Kayal - I don't think Propper gives him enough support in the middle.
 




One Teddy Maybank

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Game of opinons - he would be one of my bottom 3.
I think Stephens has been better most of the season and really don't get some people's negativity toward him (missed Cardiff game so cannot comment on that match).
Yesterday I think Stephens played really well but still some people are giving him really low marks - just don't get why.
I also thought he looked more comfortable playing with Kayal - I don't think Propper gives him enough support in the middle.

Yes, I like Stephens and after a couple of poor games, looked back on form yesterday.


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One Teddy Maybank

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It was mostly Izquierdo not picking up Doherty......or giving him far too much space

Yes absolutely, though Bong got caught ball watching twice in the first half as well.

In those situations you need good communication between Ryan, Bong and Izquierdo.


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ac gull

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Jul 7, 2003
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8's all round for effort

9's for Kayal, Bong, Bruno and Gross who dragged the level of performance of the team up by the scruff of the neck so to speak

Jose worked hard when not looking match fit - in fact I would say he worked harder than every single player against Bournemouth
 




samtheseagull

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Disagree he was lethargic going into an number of challenges he may be worried of another sending off for a mistimed tackle and thats how it seemed to me. Wolves crossed and shot at the first opportunity. Stephens doesnt EVER and yet again this game. Propper is better without him and I worry at how bad his injury is.

Our best outfield player today was Stephens according to who scored stats. Its weird how even when he plays well he still wont get praise. Is it a NSC thing where you cant praise someone would you have ripped to bits before?
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Our best outfield player today was Stephens according to who scored stats. Its weird how even when he plays well he still wont get praise. Is it a NSC thing where you cant praise someone would you have ripped to bits before?

But stats are bullshit. Kayal played better than Stephens beyond doubt. He allowed Stephens to play more like we know. He has been hampered by having a complete non-entity alongside him recently.
 


Trevor

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Ryan 7 Solid good performance
Bruno 7 Showed both confidence and later his age
Duffy 7 Back to early season form
Dunk 7 as per Duffy
Bong 9 Excellent show. MOM
March 8 Offered a lot both attacking and defence
Stephens 7 Mr Reliable
Propper 6 didnt have time to shine
Izyquierdo 5 Poor no pace looks injured.
Gross 6 started well buit tired.
Murray Doesnt look ;like he will score another goal.

Subs

Kayal 7 did what was expected
Bernardo 6 Covered Brune well.

How did Propper get a 6? He played 10 minutes but didn't touch the ball https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/brighton-propper-second-premier-league-player-no-touch-228538
 


samtheseagull

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Kayal did well today but not sure how people can rate him so high and others so low. His pass completion rate was 68% which is pretty poor for a CM but liked the way he buzzed around and what a strike which just went over. Its just funny how running around a bit like Andone can make you a fans favourite.
 




samtheseagull

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But stats are bullshit. Kayal played better than Stephens beyond doubt. He allowed Stephens to play more like we know. He has been hampered by having a complete non-entity alongside him recently.

Stats are bullshit? ok mate great argument mate. Im not saying Kayal was awful, he played well but gave the ball away cheaply so many times, stats prove this. Maybe he was rusty after not playing as much.
 


One Teddy Maybank

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Kayal did well today but not sure how people can rate him so high and others so low. His pass completion rate was 68% which is pretty poor for a CM but liked the way he buzzed around and what a strike which just went over. Its just funny how running around a bit like Andone can make you a fans favourite.

Yes, but it’s the areas he closed down. Stats are good, but do not tell the whole story.

Shearer’s analysis on our shape last evening was excellent, that is what Kayal brought yesterday and IMO is what has been missing.


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sussex_guy2k2

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Lol, he was my player of the season before we went on this dire run :rolleyes:

Mine too. At the moment he looks like a guy that's got no one to play off of, no one making runs in front of him, who spends most of each game having to play out of tiny spaces under pressure and who never gets to cross the half way line because of our ridiculously rigid tactics. What is clear to anyone with a football brain is that he's one of the few players in our squad that could step up to a much better side with relative ease, which many of our players couldn't do.
 




samtheseagull

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Yes, but it’s the areas he closed down. Stats are good, but do not tell the whole story.

Shearer’s analysis on our shape last evening was excellent, that is what Kayal brought yesterday and IMO is what has been missing.


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Yes I agree, like I said Kayal played well but people need to look at the bigger pitcher at times. Kayal could press players as Stepehns sat in, at times when we were defending set pieces Dale was acting as another CB. DS made 4 more tackles, was dispossessed less, much better passing, made more passes etc etc just about time he got some praise.
 


sussex_guy2k2

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Yes, but it’s the areas he closed down. Stats are good, but do not tell the whole story.

Shearer’s analysis on our shape last evening was excellent, that is what Kayal brought yesterday and IMO is what has been missing.


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I'd argue that's probably the very reason he doesn't start a ton of games for us at this level (plus his poorer use of the ball). He doesn't have the defensive discipline to keep the shape - he's so desperate to impress all of the time that he goes charging after the man with the ball and often leaves us exposed. In a side that presses higher up, he'd be great, but his lack of discipline is always likely to hold him back in a CH team at this level.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Yes, but it’s the areas he closed down. Stats are good, but do not tell the whole story.

Shearer’s analysis on our shape last evening was excellent, that is what Kayal brought yesterday and IMO is what has been missing.


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Exactly.
 


Icy Gull

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Mine too. At the moment he looks like a guy that's got no one to play off of, no one making runs in front of him, who spends most of each game having to play out of tiny spaces under pressure and who never gets to cross the half way line because of our ridiculously rigid tactics. What is clear to anyone with a football brain is that he's one of the few players in our squad that could step up to a much better side with relative ease, which many of our players couldn't do.

There must be a reason why a team like Ajax, are rumoured, to want to sign this “not good enough” for Albion player
 




One Teddy Maybank

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I'd argue that's probably the very reason he doesn't start a ton of games for us at this level (plus his poorer use of the ball). He doesn't have the defensive discipline to keep the shape - he's so desperate to impress all of the time that he goes charging after the man with the ball and often leaves us exposed. In a side that presses higher up, he'd be great, but his lack of discipline is always likely to hold him back in a CH team at this level.

Great post, and my biggest argument against Kayal, see the Kayal thread prior to yesterday.

That was the difference yesterday he didn’t wander/blindly chase


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Herr Tubthumper

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There must be a reason why a team like Ajax, are rumoured, to want to sign this “not good enough” for Albion player

Difference in standard of the two leagues? Whilst he might not be up to the standard of a lower Prem team he will most likely slot into and impress a high ranking Dutch team.
 


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