[Albion] Alireza Jahanbakhsh

[Guinness Boy]

Playing in a team who during 2019 have probably averaged 1 shot on target, per game.

Ali is no more responsible for our appalling form than anyone else on the pitch all of whom are answerable to Mr Hughton.

Izquierdo last season - 5 goals 3 assists in 23 games, 9 as sub
Gross last season - 7 goals and 8 assists in 35
Gross THIS season 2 goals and 2 assists in 18

All under the same manager.

The simple fact is Ali J is nowhere near as good as those two players which is why we're not seeing the attacking football and shots raining in on the goal.

 

[Weststander]

We need a better CM, in an attacking sense. That’s how we’re losing games, not controlling games, not creating openings. Even Stains and Burnley, as away teams, were far better in CM.

Hopefully TB will get to grips with that this summer.

Then we’ll be able to if all our wingers, Locadia and Andone are truly PL class.

IMHO, it’s too early to call all/any of those players inadequate, or condemn CH as holding the club back as a relentless few do.

 

[Stat Brother]

You're ALWAYS snidey. A player who is bang average and has it pointed out on here might score a goal, and up you pop with a new thread hailing him as some sort of world beater, particularly snidey at anyone who disagreed over the course of the previous X games. You do it without fail. You seem incapable of accepting that some people don't rate some of our players, however well the point is argued.

Of course I can accept players not being rated, with regards to Ali J I may well be joining them.
I certainly haven't been championing him as God's gift to football.

What I am struggling with is the length of time he's been given to 'prove himself' in some posters eyes.

 

[Stat Brother]

Izquierdo last season - 5 goals 3 assists in 23 games, 9 as sub
Gross last season - 7 goals and 8 assists in 35
Gross THIS season 2 goals and 2 assists in 18

All under the same manager.

The simple fact is Ali J is nowhere near as good as those two players which is why we're not seeing the attacking football and shots raining in on the goal.

Ali has hit the woodwork twice this season.
He's 10 mm away from making that point obsolete.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Ali has hit the woodwork twice this season.
He's 10 mm away from making that point obsolete.

No, no he's not.

It really doesn't matter if you hit the post or Row Z. Unless it goes in it's useless as far as points and goal difference go. And can you tell me how many times Gross and Izqueirdo hit the woodwork in the periods I quoted because you make it sound like that's zero and I'm not sure either of us is certain of that?

But even if they HAD gone in it puts him 2 assists behind Gross having played more games and way behind Izzy from last season.

You've got Stat in your name but you don't seem to be able to understand them.

 

[Simster]

Ali has hit the woodwork twice this season.
He's 10 mm away from making that point obsolete.

His effort against Huddersfield smacked against the bar - it needed to go a lot lower than a centimetre to have scored.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

There's going to be a lot of bouncing of this thread next season.

 

[Stat Brother]

No, no he's not.

It really doesn't matter if you hit the post or Row Z. Unless it goes in it's useless as far as points and goal difference go. And can you tell me how many times Gross and Izqueirdo hit the woodwork in the periods I quoted because you make it sound like that's zero and I'm not sure either of us is certain of that?

But even if they HAD gone in it puts him 2 assists behind Gross having played more games and way behind Izzy from last season.

You've got Stat in your name but you don't seem to be able to understand them.

I beg to differ, there's a huge difference between hitting the woodwork and Craig Noone-ing all his shots.

I firmly believe all our wingers would benefit from a different focal point, and once again the club is paying the price of not going all in on goal scorers.



Oh and the name is ironic.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

There's going to be a lot of bouncing of this thread next season.

Probably










(When he smashes in his 28th of the season, against Excelsior or Willem II)

 

[Bold Seagull]

Of course I can accept players not being rated, with regards to Ali J I may well be joining them.
I certainly haven't been championing him as God's gift to football.

What I am struggling with is the length of time he's been given to 'prove himself' in some posters eyes.

In your defence, I imagine Chelsea Forums had similar threads to this for Mo Salah and Kevin De Bruyne.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

In your defence, I imagine Chelsea Forums had similar threads to this for Mo Salah and Kevin De Bruyne.

These are terrible comparisons!

KDB made just three appearances in his two years at Chelsea, and Salah, in his two years registered for Chelsea scored 20 in 50 games in Serie A.

 

[Nixonator]

Of course I can accept players not being rated, with regards to Ali J I may well be joining them.
I certainly haven't been championing him as God's gift to football.

What I am struggling with is the length of time he's been given to 'prove himself' in some posters eyes.

He can come good, I can easily see it.

Problem for me is that (assuming we stay up), we cannot afford any more chancing on Belgium and Dutch league players and the absurd amount of time that it takes for them to adjust here, if they ever do.

We are crying out for someone to come in and do a job off the bat in CM and up front. That is going to mean substantial transfer fees and likely changing our wage structure.

I am fine with keeping faith in our acquisitions of last summer but our recruitment policy needs to be different this time around.

 

[Bold Seagull]

These are terrible comparisons!

KDB made just three appearances in his two years at Chelsea, and Salah, in his two years registered for Chelsea scored 20 in 50 games in Serie A.

What about Lukaku then?

 

[Simster]

What about Lukaku then?

Or on the flip side, Winston Bogarde?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

What about Lukaku then?

Perhaps a better comparison, but with him Stat's argument that it was too early to make an assessment, would have been far stronger. Lukaku joined in August 2011, didn't make his Premier League debut until May 2012, and then got sent out on loan

 

[Questions]

If only that shot that hit the bar went in

Yes then our 14 million pound forward would have one goal in 20 appearances.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Well, I tried my best. Unlike some wingers...

 

[LamieRobertson]

Yes then our 14 million pound forward would have one goal in 20 appearances.

Who knows...maybe that would have given him the confidence to score more...to put a slightly more positive spin on it.

Is that 20 matches where he has started?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Well, I tried my best. Unlike some whingers...

Corrected for you

 

[Stat Brother]

Who knows...maybe that would have given him the confidence to score more...to put a slightly more positive spin on it.

Is that 20 matches where he has started?

Nope

https://www.transfermarkt.com/alire...erein=1237&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

But as you can see he's had more than enough time to prove his worth.



Oddly I'd hazard a guess percentage wise he's the winningest starter in our squad.