Wigan Athletic vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

[Screaming J]

I feel so sorry for the fans that made the effort to go to Wigan and the team and manager did'nt even bother to acknowledge them at the end disgraceful bunch of overpaid not fit to wear the shirt c**ts

Probably a good job they didn't. There was a lot of anger and frustration in the away end at the end and if they HAD come over to us I wonder whether there would have been a bit more on the pitch than just the two scarves that got thrown.

 

[Triggaaar]

maybe he at last could see the team that he has poured money into after selling the crown jewels.
maybe if we had kept the good players and not sold them and replaced them with a cheaper version we might just be in a better place

When a club in a higher division offers £10m for your striker, you have to take it. We got decent money for the others too. This season has been a disaster, but then I think we flattered ourselves last season, as I think Oscar did a very good job worth what he had. I'm sure TB is aware of how bad we are, and I'd guess fixing it is his number one priority.

and as for the other guy .........................600k for making decisions that have got us where we are now he want to sell more players, how the hell do you square that one.

I'm not particular interested in defending or criticising PB. I will comment when precious fans start laying into TB though, as I strongly disagree with what you said.

 

[Driver8]

When a club in a higher division offers £10m for your striker, you have to take it. We got decent money for the others too.

No, you don't have to take it.

Not if you have ambitions to reach that higher division in a year or two.

It's about time we stopped this "won't stand in your way" bollocks and started thinking of ourselves.

 

[glasfryn]

]When a club in a higher division offers £10m for your striker, you have to take it[/U]. We got decent money for the others too. This season has been a disaster, but then I think we flattered ourselves last season, as I think Oscar did a very good job worth what he had. I'm sure TB is aware of how bad we are, and I'd guess fixing it is his number one priority.

I'm not particular interested in defending or criticising PB. I will comment when precious fans start laying into TB though, as I strongly disagree with what you said.

but you don't you could keep them and gamble that they will get you up, you only have to look at the Barnes transfer we got a measly fee 750k and gambling and keeping him and we might not be in the trouble we are in now.
now you are not going to like this but I think if the club had gone along with DK and had a smaller ground and consentrated on the footballing side we might just might have been OK .....and then explanded later as we bought in more money, the whole thing would certainly have been less corperate than it is now
and if the gamble with the players did not come off then you might sell them and maybe for a lot more money than we actually got especially with the likes of Barnes as he would have been in a longer contract
750k he was an absolute bargain

 

[glasfryn]

no, you don't have to take it.

Not if you have ambitions to reach that higher division in a year or two.

It's about time we stopped this "won't stand in your way" bollocks and started thinking of ourselves.

nail head

 

[Juror#13]

No, you don't have to take it.

Not if you have ambitions to reach that higher division in a year or two.

It's about time we stopped this "won't stand in your way" bollocks and started thinking of ourselves.

That's right. Look at all the other clubs who have kept their players and refuse to sell. It only seems we're the only club that sells no matter what.

Paul Barber said on the Albion Roar that if a player wants to leave then we'll let him go. What will he do and say if the whole squad and management team said in the summer we're all walking, what will he do then?

Barber has been a nightmare since his arrival.

 

[Lifelong Supporter]

but you don't you could keep them and gamble that they will get you up, you only have to look at the Barnes transfer we got a measly fee 750k and gambling and keeping him and we might not be in the trouble we are in now.
now you are not going to like this but I think if the club had gone along with DK and had a smaller ground and consentrated on the footballing side we might just might have been OK .....and then explanded later as we bought in more money, the whole thing would certainly have been less corperate than it is now
and if the gamble with the players did not come off then you might sell them and maybe for a lot more money than we actually got especially with the likes of Barnes as he would have been in a longer contract
750k he was an absolute bargain

Sent off today (familiar ?). Team bottom of the Premiership and on its way down to the Championship. He will be for sale next season. Should we buy ? He is playing wide left where he did for us latterly... What do you think ?

 

[Triggaaar]

No, you don't have to take it.

I think we got a good price for Leo, and so I think we were right to take it. That money should be invested back, and we should benefit from his sale. If our owner was making a profit on us, like the Arsenal owners, I'd agree about player sales. But TB is losing a fortune on us, and he's spending up to the FFP limit. I don't really get how some of you complain as if that's not enough.

It's about time we stopped this "won't stand in your way" bollocks and started thinking of ourselves.

I partly agree with you there. If we've got a good enough squad, or we're in a position to make it good enough, we shouldn't let players go, but I think the price was good enough for Leo, so I think it was the right decision. And I think most of us here did.

 

[One Love]

Wigan have gone 17 home games without a win ... only one outcome

You couldn't make it up.!

I've lost count of the number of times this season we've been the team that the opposition breaks their run of defeats against.

 

[Driver8]

I think we got a good price for Leo, and so I think we were right to take it. That money should be invested back, and we should benefit from his sale. If our owner was making a profit on us, like the Arsenal owners, I'd agree about player sales. But TB is losing a fortune on us, and he's spending up to the FFP limit. I don't really get how some of you complain as if that's not enough.
I partly agree with you there. If we've got a good enough squad, or we're in a position to make it good enough, we shouldn't let players go, but I think the price was good enough for Leo, so I think it was the right decision. And I think most of us here did.

The only way TB is going to get his money back is by getting to the Premier League.

That isn't going to happen by replacing someone of Ulloa's quality with O'Grady.

You need an Ulloa (or two) to get promoted. We had one and sold him. Makes no sense to me.

 

[Triggaaar]

but you don't you could keep them and gamble that they will get you up, you only have to look at the Barnes transfer we got a measly fee 750k and gambling and keeping him and we might not be in the trouble we are in now.

How would keeping him have helped the position we're in now? His contract was out, and he wasn't signing a new one.

now you are not going to like this but I think if the club had gone along with DK and had a smaller ground and consentrated on the footballing side we might just might have been OK .....and then explanded later as we bought in more money, the whole thing would certainly have been less corperate than it is now

I don't dislike what you're saying, I just find it incredulous and naive in the extreme. TB invested before we built the Amex, we didn't have planning permission to build a smaller ground, we didn't have the money to build a smaller ground, and building a smaller ground and then expanding it to be like what we have would have cost a fortune and not been as good at the end. It's just complete nonsense.

I accept that a lot of fans feel we've become too corporate, and I agree that they voice their opinions and try and get the club to change.

and if the gamble with the players did not come off then you might sell them and maybe for a lot more money than we actually got

I don't know which players you're referring to, can you give examples? I don't think we'd ever have got so much for Ulloa, for example.

especially with the likes of Barnes as he would have been in a longer contract 750k he was an absolute bargain

But Barnes wouldn't sign a new contract, what the hell were we supposed to do? And maybe you've forgotten, but many of our fans thought he was rubbish anyway.

 

[BensGrandad]

But Barnes wouldn't sign a new contract, what the hell were we supposed to do? And maybe you've forgotten, but many of our fans thought he was rubbish anyway.

Like Murray wages and expectation perhaps.

 

[BensGrandad]

Sorry duplicate post.

 

[Triggaaar]

Like Murray wages and expectation perhaps.

It seems that everyone says that Murray wanted to stay, and would have signed for a reasonable fee, so no, not like Murray. Letting Murray go is clearly our worst transfer decision in many a year.

 

[glasfryn]

Sent off today (familiar ?). Team bottom of the Premiership and on its way down to the Championship. He will be for sale next season. Should we buy ? He is playing wide left where he did for us latterly... What do you think ?

HE HAS PASSION AND PREMIERSHIP EXPERIENCE ..................................yes

 

[glasfryn]

How would keeping him have helped the position we're in now? His contract was out, and he wasn't signing a new one.
I don't dislike what you're saying, I just find it incredulous and naive in the extreme. TB invested before we built the Amex, we didn't have planning permission to build a smaller ground, we didn't have the money to build a smaller ground, and building a smaller ground and then expanding it to be like what we have would have cost a fortune and not been as good at the end. It's just complete nonsense.

I accept that a lot of fans feel we've become too corporate, and I agree that they voice their opinions and try and get the club to change.

I don't know which players you're referring to, can you give examples? I don't think we'd ever have got so much for Ulloa, for example.
But Barnes wouldn't sign a new contract, what the hell were we supposed to do? And maybe you've forgotten, but many of our fans thought he was rubbish anyway.

because the club offered him less or the same on a new contract and some of the abuse he got at the Amex and on here was terrible (where are all those knobs now I wonder)

the others ..........well just about anyone we had we either could have kept them or sold them at a later date, Bridders,Buckley, Orlandi, Lopez, Rodrigez, Upson, Ward, need I go on.

 

[BensGrandad]

It seems that everyone says that Murray wanted to stay, and would have signed for a reasonable fee, so no, not like Murray. Letting Murray go is clearly our worst transfer decision in many a year.

Do you not think Barnes would have if he had been offered the right inducement ie wages etc.

 

[glasfryn]

Do you not think Barnes would have if he had been offered the right inducement ie wages etc.

yes

 

[Acker79]

It seems that everyone says that Murray wanted to stay, and would have signed for a reasonable fee, so no, not like Murray. Letting Murray go is clearly our worst transfer decision in many a year.

Murray only wanted to stay if the club was willing/able to match the money he would make from a move to Palace, just as Barnes would have stayed if the club were willing to match what was offered by Burnley.

 

[Dick Head]

Sorry duplicate post.