Those naughty banks; luckily the government are on their case.....

[El Presidente]

vendit dimittere exequendis

Scorchio, heh heh! Nio dudupos, sminki pinki tenuros tomano... Graba da bols!!

 

[lawros left foot]

Scorchio, heh heh! Nio dudupos, sminki pinki tenuros tomano... Graba da bols!!

I'd love to join in this conversation, but i went to a state school

 

[Diego Napier]

Scorchio, heh heh! Nio dudupos, sminki pinki tenuros tomano... Graba da bols!!

Pidgeon latin please not greek!

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

It happened on Labours watch.

More importantly the data was only given to HMRC in 2010 and the Tory/LibDem coalition have conveniently turned a blind eye so as not to upset their rich buddies but instead launch scathing attacks on benefit cheats.

 

[beorhthelm]

More importantly the data was only given to HMRC in 2010 and the Tory/LibDem coalition have conveniently turned a blind eye so as not to upset their rich buddies but instead launch scathing attacks on benefit cheats.

apart from the £135m reportedly recovered by HMRC to their satisfaction. seems to some want the HMRC to send people to court to recover money, when their current process has already done so. sounds like a waste of courts time to me.

 

[lawros left foot]

apart from the £135m reportedly recovered by HMRC to their satisfaction. seems to some want the HMRC to send people to court to recover money, when their current process has already done so. sounds like a waste of courts time to me.

I like to see them in Court to answer for the crime of tax evasion that they have committed, or is it only benefits fraud that doesn't waste the courts time

 

[BadFish]

if you're a HSBC customer, you should probably be more concerned about the "wistleblower" taking the account information from the bank. thats the real story here, not that a bank offers offshore bank accounts.

I was wondering how you would find a way to defend the Status Quo on this one 5/10 for that one I am afraid.

Is the message here that we should shoot the messenger

 

[BadFish]

If we all just get on with our lives then they'll be left with a free rei(g)n, so I won't ignore it.

Perhaps if we could get on with our lives without the austerity measures appear to be paying for the antics of the rich and power. "We're all in this together".

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

apart from the £135m reportedly recovered by HMRC to their satisfaction. seems to some want the HMRC to send people to court to recover money, when their current process has already done so. sounds like a waste of courts time to me.

£135M could be a very small percentage of what is actually due if thousands of seriously rich individuals have been evading tax for decades.

 

[BadFish]

Anyone else been watching this series. Very interesting/worrying/frightening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2BiuW93bos

 

[cunning fergus]

Why would anyone who feels strongly about this vote for the former stockbroker and the scorner of the working classes Nigel Farage? Him and his mates love a bit of the old tax evasion, I'm sure.

That maybe true, but it's ironic that his political nemesis created the very environment to allow this to happen.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/14/jean-claude-juncker-luxembourg-tax-deals-controversy

Proof if ever that the EU is absolutely dripping wet with f@cking Tories........

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

this is a 7 year old story and information has been with HMRC for 4 years according to the article, why it wasnt passed on immediatly should make you wonder the motives for the theft.

I Thought it was passed on immediately to French authorities??

 

[beorhthelm]

I was wondering how you would find a way to defend the Status Quo on this one 5/10 for that one I am afraid.

another one... where is it that i'm defending anything? are we not allowed to highlight unsaid issues that may be as significant as the prescribed story? must fit in to neat for/against sides?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

another one... where is it that i'm defending anything? are we not allowed to highlight unsaid issues that may be as significant as the prescribed story? must fit in to neat for/against sides?

You can. But saying the whistle-blower sat on his haul is wrong.

 

[beorhthelm]

£135M could be a very small percentage of what is actually due if thousands of seriously rich individuals have been evading tax for decades.

possibly, but the article implies they've wrapped up their investigation. getting £135m out of 1100 individual sounds like a pretty decent haul, £123k each on average.

You can. But saying the whistle-blower sat on his haul is wrong.

i dont trust any "whistle blower" that doesnt go to authorities immediatly. to sit on this sort of information for years would serve little purpose other than fraud in my mind. just to capture it and remove from the system in the first place, rather than alert the authorities, makes the motivation suspicious. thats why i raised it, because i'd be very concerned how it was lifted without detection, especially given the high value nature. if they dont protect the wealthy customers they cant care much for rest of us and while this isnt "news" within IT security circles, that certainly should be of great concern to the general public.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

possibly, but the article implies they've wrapped up their investigation. getting £135m out of 1100 individual sounds like a pretty decent haul, £123k each on average.

Yet some retired professional footballers are now being chased for investing in schemes that the HMRC now say are dodgy and face handing over seven figure sums to clear their tax bills.

 

[beorhthelm]

Yet some retired professional footballers are now being chased for investing in schemes that the HMRC now say are dodgy and face handing over seven figure sums to clear their tax bills.

not sure i see where that follows on in relation to this story, other than two cases of tax authorities chasing money being in the public eye, what else to they have in common?

 

[BadFish]

another one... where is it that i'm defending anything? are we not allowed to highlight unsaid issues that may be as significant as the prescribed story? must fit in to neat for/against sides?

Just an observation, thats all.

If the thread is about one thing and you decide to highlight a far smaller issue and claim it is more important then people are going to question your motives. Especially with your track record of defending the status quo.

 

[franks brother]

2 tier system of justice. The rich caught will be ordered to say sorry. The poor go jail. If you're rich it's called a tax break, the poor it's called benefits cheating.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

possibly, but the article implies they've wrapped up their investigation. getting £135m out of 1100 individual sounds like a pretty decent haul, £123k each on average.



i dont trust any "whistle blower" that doesnt go to authorities immediatly. to sit on this sort of information for years would serve little purpose other than fraud in my mind. just to capture it and remove from the system in the first place, rather than alert the authorities, makes the motivation suspicious. thats why i raised it, because i'd be very concerned how it was lifted without detection, especially given the high value nature. if they dont protect the wealthy customers they cant care much for rest of us and while this isnt "news" within IT security circles, that certainly should be of great concern to the general public.

But this person DID go to the authorities immediately