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Labour lead in polls,anyone able explain why ?







Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,590
Partly because the Lib Dems will now be back down to something like their longtime traditional 9% of the vote having sold their natural born supporters down the river bigtime? Greens and UKIPs are a local/euro election sideshow, its back to the Big Two when it counts.

We all know Ed Miliband is unlikely to ever be a decent Prime Minister. This election is all about how much damage UKIP will do to the number of Tory seats. If there was no UKIP the Tories would already have this in the bag.
 


Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
16,667
Fiveways
Yes, because the Tories were scuppered in their attempt to secure electoral boundary reform by a LibDem revolt - caused by the Tories' refusal to back them over one of their electoral pledges (can't remember which - no doubt someone on here can remind me).

That old chestnut: House of Lords reform.
This Costa Rica-Greece game is even worse than I expected. Still it gives an opportunity to watch this Tejeda who we've been linked with.
He's extremely impressive, there'll be a bigger club coming in for him.
 


8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
Yes, indeed. However, Boris is more likely, imo. I know he needs a seat first, but that would be easy enough to arrange for him. Boris - Leader of the Opposition. Boris - Prime Minister. Wow. Just wow. But it could really happen...

Boris is fav to be next Tory leader, 2nd fav to be next PM.
 


RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,499
Vacationland
"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." - attrib. Abraham Lincoln
 






drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,070
Burgess Hill
Simple. Cameron.

Have to agree with this. When you look back at the last election, Victory at the election was virtually handed to Cameron on a silver salver but he still failed to secure a majority. He has been made to look a fool by Coulson and to a lesser extent his patronage of Brooks. The recent shambles over Junckers has left him with egg on his face and he has Boris breathing down his neck. On top of that, Ukip may seriously dent his traditional support, which might not materialise in any seats for them but could be the spanner in the works. It could also be argued that the demise of Libdem support could backfire as their disgruntled voters may well shift to Labour. All these factors could see us landed with Ed, who wouldn't be my first choice as leader of Labour (probably not even second choice either!).
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
24,896
Worthing
Exactly. The nation is fed up with being sold austerity, low wages, zero-hours contracts and the rest by a bunch of hypocritical rich white ex-public schoolboys, most of whom have never done proper jobs in their lives and whose only non-Etonian friends are people like Brooks and Coulson. Duncan-Smith cuts benefits while living free in his wealthy in-laws' property. They make me vomit.

About covers it.
 












Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
9,821
saaf of the water
It will come down to how many Tories who voted UKIP at he euro elections stick with them, and how many drift back to the Tories.

UKIP do get some support from traditional Labour supporters too, but not as much.

Cameron, Milliband, what an awful choice we have.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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NSC Patron
Sep 15, 2004
18,711
Hurst Green
Exactly. The nation is fed up with being sold austerity, low wages, zero-hours contracts and the rest by a bunch of hypocritical rich white ex-public schoolboys, most of whom have never done proper jobs in their lives and whose only non-Etonian friends are people like Brooks and Coulson. Duncan-Smith cuts benefits while living free in his wealthy in-laws' property. They make me vomit.

The same non-Eton friends shared with by Blair especially Brooks who certainly shared the same bed in more ways than one.

They're all in it. To be honest there's hardly any difference between the two parties.

Brooks hold so much power over the "establishment" it's no wonder she got off.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,590
I think people underestimate how difficult it is to pull a country out of the sort of mess Labour left us in. We're now in pretty good shape, whereas France is in a state and Spain is ****ed.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,207
Goldstone
Labour have done nothing and I mean nothing to be deserve a lead in these polls. I certainly wont be voting for them. I used to be a Labour voter but never again.
I'll certainly be voting for them again, but not in the next election.
 


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,070
Burgess Hill
I think people underestimate how difficult it is to pull a country out of the sort of mess Labour left us in. We're now in pretty good shape, whereas France is in a state and Spain is ****ed.

And had the tories been in power in 2008 then the roles would have been reversed. It was a global recession.
 


Southern Scouse

Well-known member
Jul 21, 2011
2,024
Probably due to the fact that outside of the London/South East bubble, living in the UK is pretty shit.
 


D

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Labour made the situation worse not better and people are still living with the bad decisions that they made. They didn't cause the global downturn, but what they didn't do was limit the number of people coming here from the Eastern Europe looking for work and they didn't control migration from outside the EU either.

What they didn't do was protect the interests of British workers and didn't plan for the possible problems increased migration would create on local services, the possible problems of integration and the money it would cost.

It's why we now have an situation where there are too many applicants going for jobs. How they can sit there now and slag of the Tory party is beyond me. The Tories are just as bad by the way. Labour are no longer the solution for me and neither at the Tories, they both do my head in.
 
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Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,032
The arse end of Hangleton
Even if UKIP won 20% of the vote it would not win them a single seat at the next election. Not with our electoral system as it is now.

And yet the Greens got an MP with considerably less than 20% of the vote. I suspect UKIP will get a very small number of seats - probably in Essex and the South West.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
My national election vote always goes Tory

My favourite politician however is Dennis Skinner,an absolute legend in my book,always looking out for his constituents,committed 100% to original Labour as opposed to the centre new Labour,always involved and i swear he lives in the commons....everytime i put on the parliament channel he is always there!

I watched an interview with Milliband recently about Camerons failure over this recent Junker stuff and he just came across as a robot who is being fed line after line of soundbites from the central committee,but then again that is all he is ......soundbites and guff.

no wonder only a 1/3 of people can be arsed to vote
 


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