Kaz: Starter or Supersub?

[Springal]

How would we have got our first goal yesterday then?

The flogging the dead horse of supersub is hilarious by some on here

I'm not really sure of your point ?

 

[London Irish]

I'm not really sure of your point ?

The player you think so lacks concentration that he cannot start created the first goal yesterday with his concentration

 

[Springal]

The player you think so lacks concentration that he cannot start created the first goal yesterday with his concentration

The goal was within the first 15 minutes. Much like he normally is decent when he comes on for the last 20mins.

 

[London Irish]

The goal was within the first 15 minutes. Much like he normally is decent when he comes on for the last 20mins.

What do you think of the general merits of taking the game to the opposition early then?

 

[Springal]

What do you think of the general merits of taking the game to the opposition early then?

Probably not best use of subs to have to take someone off after 30mins though eh?

 

[dadams2k11]

I say start the boy. Best players that are available need to start so we can hopefully grab a few goals and control the game, not see what happens and then decide after 60-70 mins we need to bring on attacking players to nick a result.

Think the last two games has shown that.

 

[London Irish]

Probably not best use of subs to have to take someone off after 30mins though eh?

Well yeh. But your contention that he can only play for 20 minutes is fairly ridiculous, so a non sequitur in this case.

He played 88 minutes during our 4-1 victory at Leicester, to remind you.

 

[nwgull]

Well yeh. But your contention that he can only play for 20 minutes is fairly ridiculous, so a non sequitur in this case.

He played 88 minutes during our 4-1 victory at Leicester, to remind you.

Quite. I don't care if he starts to go missing after 60 mins and has to be replaced. He can do 3 times as much damage in that time than the usual 20 mins he gets.

 

[Geriatric Seagull]

He seemed to pick up a knock early in the game and when he won the ball for Lingard's goal he actually stayed down. Several times after that he appeared to be feeling his shin. It was probably the right time to bring him off although at 2-0 and not much to beat it would have been an ideal time to give CMS a decent run-out. Having said that, JFC scored so who am I to know!

 

[fat old seagull]

Lua Lua roughly translates as 'start start' in Flemish.

*there may be a small lie in there somewhere.

Yes, but only a little fib. Definitely start !

 

[backson]

At times this year when he's started, he's been the only threat so the opposition cotton on quickly and double or triple up on him, and mark him out of the game. That's why at times when he's started, he's not been so effective.

It seems in the last couple of games we have more than one than one threat, what with Lingard and March, which gave Kaz a bit more freedom to do his thing. He had an immense first 15 minutes, but then after that I'd say he was good, but not fantastic. I still think he can drift out of games, someone mentioned concentration, maybe it's that, maybe something else.

I'd say, as long as we've got other creative outlets on the pitch, then start him.

 

[Albion Dan]

It beggars belief that after him starting has coincided with two of our best attacking performances and effectively saved our season that some people think he should go back to sub. Clueless isn't even close.

 

[London Irish]

At times this year when he's started, he's been the only threat so the opposition cotton on quickly and double or triple up on him, and mark him out of the game. That's why at times when he's started, he's not been so effective.

It seems in the last couple of games we have more than one than one threat, what with Lingard and March, which gave Kaz a bit more freedom to do his thing. He had an immense first 15 minutes, but then after that I'd say he was good, but not fantastic. I still think he can drift out of games, someone mentioned concentration, maybe it's that, maybe something else.

I'd say, as long as we've got other creative outlets on the pitch, then start him.

I'd say that's fair - my worry is the very flat half hour after he went off. JFC did Oscar a big favour by sticking that third away as we reverted to type with a lot of possession but little penetration - lets hope Buckley gets fit quickly and maybe even get Jeff M back from Crawley - no more excuses on injuries please, we need attacking players who can beat their man to make the possession football work

 

[Triggaaar]

Has the last couple of games not answered that question

Exactly. If he's fit enough to play as well as the last couple of games, there's nothing to discuss.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Earlier in the season, I would have said he should only be a sub. But he is playing very well at present when starting - so thats the best option.

On a side note, the "booing" yesterday when he was subbed was a bit of a joke. It was a good decision to bring him off as he was already carded and we need him badly for Easter Weekend.

 

[Triggaaar]

I'm surprised CMS didn't get a run out. He could be needed if we were to make the playoffs.

 

[We're the Stripes]

At times this year when he's started, he's been the only threat so the opposition cotton on quickly and double or triple up on him, and mark him out of the game. That's why at times when he's started, he's not been so effective.

It seems in the last couple of games we have more than one than one threat, what with Lingard and March, which gave Kaz a bit more freedom to do his thing. He had an immense first 15 minutes, but then after that I'd say he was good, but not fantastic. I still think he can drift out of games, someone mentioned concentration, maybe it's that, maybe something else.

I'd say, as long as we've got other creative outlets on the pitch, then start him.

Astute observation. There are numerous advantages it seems of the way we've set up in the last couple of games, and Kaz have more room to operate in is most certainly one of them. Having two other players roaming around behind Leo who can and will run at players with pace must make life so much more difficult for opposing teams when looking to suss out and stifle our key threat(s). Certainly I wouldn't know who to mark given how frequently they were interchanging yesterday.

 

[Keeping The Dream Alive.]

Earlier in the season, I would have said he should only be a sub. But he is playing very well at present when starting - so thats the best option.

On a side note, the "booing" yesterday when he was subbed was a bit of a joke. It was a good decision to bring him off as he was already carded and we need him badly for Easter Weekend.

Booing? Can't say I heard any.

 

[Seagull over Canaryland]

I've enjoyed seeing KLL start the last two games and he definitely gave us some badly needed penetration and pace that causes opposing defences big problems.

The problem is that we currently do not have Buckley (or vice versa with KLL) to come off the bench and give us similar pace throughout the whole game. Without them we become a bit more predictable and easier to contain.

I agree that giving CMS a chance to give a tiring defence the run around would have been a bot more positive. In his last two cameos CMS has certainly looked energetic and making dangerous runs.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Earlier in the season, I would have said he should only be a sub. But he is playing very well at present when starting - so thats the best option.

On a side note, the "booing" yesterday when he was subbed was a bit of a joke. It was a good decision to bring him off as he was already carded and we need him badly for Easter Weekend.

Please tell me you're joking and that this did not happen?