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Mo Gosfield
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Should be no shortage of interest....the tribute to him on Top Gear was moving and fascinating....the last man to perish in a Formula One Grand Prix.....and arguably the greatest of them all....talented, wayward, charismatic.....adored in his homeland...revered and respected everywhere else...much missed.
We're going Saturday night.
I've convinced Wifey she'll love it, and judging by the reviews I think she probably will, as she does take a passing interest in sport and Grand Prix.
But, on a whim I asked another couple, the wife of which has no interest at all, and they've said yes.
I guess the question I'm asking is:-
Does this actually stand up as a film, or is it just a Senna/Grand Prix/documentary?
I've convinced Wifey she'll love it, and judging by the reviews I think she probably will, as she does take a passing interest in sport and Grand Prix.
But, on a whim I asked another couple, the wife of which has no interest at all, and they've said yes.
I guess the question I'm asking is:-
Does this actually stand up as a film, or is it just a Senna/Grand Prix/documentary?
AIT76
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There is some great footage, especially from Monaco. The onboard cameras are still a bit primitive so they shake and the picture breaks up but if anything this adds to the overall impression of speed.
Also you forget how much things have advanced. After the pile up at the start, the safety car at that San Marino GP was some crappy Fiat road car - so slow that at one point Senna draws along side and urges it to hurry up. I know loss of tyre temperature and pressure during this portion of the race was put forward as a possible cause of the accident hence why they now use supercars instead.
It's cleverly written, in the way that Senna's own words tell the story but for me, the film is incredibly biased. Alain Prost is made out to be some sort of anti-christ and Senna's ruthless win at all costs mentality is glossed over. You get the impression that after Prost quit, him and Senna never spoke to each other again which is neither fair or accurate.
Also you forget how much things have advanced. After the pile up at the start, the safety car at that San Marino GP was some crappy Fiat road car - so slow that at one point Senna draws along side and urges it to hurry up. I know loss of tyre temperature and pressure during this portion of the race was put forward as a possible cause of the accident hence why they now use supercars instead.
It's cleverly written, in the way that Senna's own words tell the story but for me, the film is incredibly biased. Alain Prost is made out to be some sort of anti-christ and Senna's ruthless win at all costs mentality is glossed over. You get the impression that after Prost quit, him and Senna never spoke to each other again which is neither fair or accurate.
Art Vs Science
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Cannot wait to see this film, i very rarely want to go to the cinema but this is a must, any idea how long it is running for at the Duke of York Cinema? Good words BTW, seems a fair assessment
You seem to have come to the film as an F1 fan.
I was wondering how it pans out for non fans.
Well I really enjoyed this film.
As a waning F1 fan, this film reminded me what the sport should be like.
I could go on, about all the different 'favourite' pieces but there were so many.
Honourable mentions to Jean-Marie Balestre (mental), Mansell's hat (even more mental), the children's Christmas TV show (wrong), the on board film.
But for me, and saying this as a person who doesn't normally recognise this, I thought the music was outstanding.
It set the tempo throughout and was so spot on.
Which reminds me, it's the first film I've been to where the closing titles were watched in silence, till the very end.
Followed by a small round of applause, then everyone filed out silently.
9/10 for anyone with an interest (passing or otherwise) in F1
6/10 for the other half.
As a waning F1 fan, this film reminded me what the sport should be like.
I could go on, about all the different 'favourite' pieces but there were so many.
Honourable mentions to Jean-Marie Balestre (mental), Mansell's hat (even more mental), the children's Christmas TV show (wrong), the on board film.
But for me, and saying this as a person who doesn't normally recognise this, I thought the music was outstanding.
It set the tempo throughout and was so spot on.
Did you, even though the kept cutting the crash sequence to a shocked Prost, they focused in on Prost carrying the coffin, and made a point, at the end, of saying Prost was one of the trustees of Senna's foundation.
Which reminds me, it's the first film I've been to where the closing titles were watched in silence, till the very end.
Followed by a small round of applause, then everyone filed out silently.
9/10 for anyone with an interest (passing or otherwise) in F1
6/10 for the other half.
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we have kept it over for a few more shows this week ( 4th week) 7.15, 9.15 today, 1.30 mon and thurs.
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There you go folks, you get to watch a proper film in a proper cinema.
We went to World of Cine, Chi, to see it.
I couldn't believe how empty the complex was, last night. There was less than 50 people in the foyer at 20:30.
But Senna was 3/4ers full.
We went to World of Cine, Chi, to see it.
I couldn't believe how empty the complex was, last night. There was less than 50 people in the foyer at 20:30.
But Senna was 3/4ers full.
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We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
It is THE only place to see proper films.
I let my membership renew every year but i don't go nearly as often.
Someone needs to sort the uncomfortable seats out!
Yeah I would definitely agree, if it weren't for the on board footage which really came to life on the big screen.
I'm going to wait til DVD, tis going to be difficult to watch for me I think...
i watched this the other day, after my mate downloaded it....
nearly 3 hours of quality, took me back to when i was a young lad, watching Senna / Prost and Mansell. It would seem after watching this, there was more to Senna, than just a great driver, he was a massive influence to the sport politically, but wasn't favoured by the FIA top brass.
Definitely a must for anyone who followed F1 in the late 80's / early 90's.
Almost had me in tears at the end. will definitely watch it again.
nearly 3 hours of quality, took me back to when i was a young lad, watching Senna / Prost and Mansell. It would seem after watching this, there was more to Senna, than just a great driver, he was a massive influence to the sport politically, but wasn't favoured by the FIA top brass.
Definitely a must for anyone who followed F1 in the late 80's / early 90's.
Almost had me in tears at the end. will definitely watch it again.
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3hrs? not sure what version that is then, only 1hr 40 mins in cinema lol.
The Cinema version is cut down, i have a copy of the full version, more of a Warts and all. Do you want a copy?
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Art Vs Science
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Just got back, WOW. Stunning film that should be seen at the Cinema really IMO. Brilliant narrative pieced together from the archives with excellent footage. Very much enjoyed it.
The San Marino Weekend really brought back some terrible memories from F1 though. 3 terrible crashes that weekend.
The San Marino Weekend really brought back some terrible memories from F1 though. 3 terrible crashes that weekend.
The Last 20 minutes are real chokers aren't they!!