Thicky Adams

[Hungry Joe]

He's not such a massive legend to me, yes he did well here 1st time around with a decent budget. But he gave me the impression that we were just a stepping stone and a bit Micky Mouse. I remember him having When the Saints go marching in as his ring tone, very drole for the ex Saints man. His bleating about designer managers and how if given the chance he could do as well and the fact that he jumped ship to be an assistant at Leicester. Aggressive and petulant little man is my recollection of him first time around, but he did give us some great days in his quest to better himself at any cost. He is out of his depth in the modern game at Championship level and quite likely to be the reason Palace stay up this year.

Zamora is the main reason Adams was as succesfull as he was here

This is the most accurate assessment of Adams I've seen. Let's not forget it was his agressive petualnce that saw us lose Joel Lynch. As has been mentioned, first time round he was lucky to have a decent side with Zamora, who was Dick Knight's target.

As for keeping Palace up, I hope so. I want to be playing them next season.

 

[BUTTERBALL]

People have short memories. It was Adams who turned this club around from an absolute shambles on the playing side to back-to-back champions and layed the foundations for everything we have done since. Yes, it didn't work out second time around, but that's life. I can't believe true Brighton 'fans' are so vitriolic to a genuine modern day club legend.

I hope he keeps Sheffield United up and proves a few people wrong.

 

[Hungry Joe]

People have short memories. It was Adams who turned this club around from an absolute shambles on the playing side to back-to-back champions and layed the foundations for everything we have done since. Yes, it didn't work out second time around, but that's life. I can't believe true Brighton 'fans' are so vitriolic to a genuine modern day club legend.

I hope he keeps Sheffield United up and proves a few people wrong.

It's got nothing to do with having short memories, just a different view of what happened. And to suggest that you can't be a 'true' Brighton fan and have a view that someone involved in a successful period for the club is maybe not the legend some think is very simplistic and pretty insulting.

 

[BUTTERBALL]

It's got nothing to do with having short memories, just a different view of what happened. And to suggest that you can't be a 'true' Brighton fan and have a view that someone involved in a successful period for the club is maybe not the legend some think is very simplistic and pretty insulting.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and of course people have differing views, I respect that. But "Thicky Adams" and the like after all he did for the club first time round? Nah.

 

[Hungry Joe]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and of course people have differing views, I respect that. But "Thicky Adams" and the like after all he did for the club first time round? Nah.

Agreed.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and of course people have differing views, I respect that. But "Thicky Adams" and the like after all he did for the club first time round? Nah.

Also agreed. Listen to Kerry may on the Albion Roar on Mickey Adams.

 

[El Presidente]

The difference is he had the best budget in the division with us.

No he didn't, Cardiff did.

Pretty much every other job he's had has ended in disaster

Apart from getting Leicester promoted to the Prem despite a transfer embargo, taking Port Vale to the top of League two, and getting Fulham promoted at the first attmpt.

 

[El Presidente]

Zamora is the main reason Adams was as succesfull as he was here

True, the likes of Cullip, Carpenter, Oatway, Brooker, Morgan, Watson and FDM did NOTHING for the Albion, we were truly just a one man team.

 

[Icy Gull]

No he didn't, Cardiff did.



Apart from getting Leicester promoted to the Prem despite a transfer embargo, taking Port Vale to the top of League two, and getting Fulham promoted at the first attmpt.

We won't mention the relegation either side of the Leicester promotion with a side that I don't think lost many players from the 1st relegation,or the fact that Al Fayed saw fit to replace him with Keegan after he got Fulham promoted. His ambition outstretched his talent. There is no denying that he is a fine Division 4 manager, especially with a big budget. He proved this with us as well as Fulham. I do not believe he would have won the 2nd Championship as Taylor's dull but spot on tactics using Zamora's poaching abilities won that for us.

 

[Hungry Joe]

True, the likes of Cullip, Carpenter, Oatway, Brooker, Morgan, Watson and FDM did NOTHING for the Albion, we were truly just a one man team.

I don't think Icy was suggesting Zamora was the only reason (he did say main). We had a great spine to the side but Zamora was the difference between Champions/promotion and being also rans.

 

[Icy Gull]

True, the likes of Cullip, Carpenter, Oatway, Brooker, Morgan, Watson and FDM did NOTHING for the Albion, we were truly just a one man team.

I said MAIN. Without Zamora we would not have romped the 1st Championship, imo. Sheesh

We had the 2nd biggest budget in the division so it was not unreasonable to expect us to have had a decent team either. We also had one of the biggest crowds. If you really think Adams was tactically good, that's your perogative, I thought he was and is average and out of his depth above Div 4 now..

 

[Pavilionaire]

As Albion fans we've seen the best and the worst of Adams over the years. He'll always be an Albion legend not just because of what he achieved but WHEN he achieved it. He built a side good enough to give the fans something to believe in again after years of rubbish and the doldrums of Gillingham.

Sure, he almost took us down again but at least that side he put together first time around gave us some great memories. AND he supported the Falmer campaign when other ex-Albion managers did far less.

He did good things at other clubs too, mainly in the lower leagues. That said, his style of management is 10 years out of date and will be exposed in the Championship. I feel he'd now be better as an assistant, rather than the main man.

 

[El Presidente]

There is no denying that he is a fine Division 4 manager, especially with a big budget.

So how did he get Leicester promoted to the Premiership with no budget?

As for your comments about promotion being due to Taylor, we were joint top of League one when this happened, so there is no evidence to support your assertion. Both Adams and Taylor made a contribution to our achievements that season.

 

[El Presidente]

I don't think Icy was suggesting Zamora was the only reason (he did say main). We had a great spine to the side but Zamora was the difference between Champions/promotion and being also rans.

But who signed Zamora?

 

[Icy Gull]

So how did he get Leicester promoted to the Premiership with no budget?

As for your comments about promotion being due to Taylor, we were joint top of League one when this happened, so there is no evidence to support your assertion. Both Adams and Taylor made a contribution to our achievements that season.

Leicester may have had no budget but they lost few, if any players, from their relegated team, which would give any team coming out of the Premiership a decent chance of bouncing back. You again forget the two relegations in three years.

We had just lost at home to Steve Coppell's Brentford when Adams jumped ship and I'm pretty sure we were not top either. We were nowhere near the best team in the Championship that year and I remain convinced that Adams would not have taken us up as Champions, we'll never know but that is my opinion. Based on the fact that tactically I don't think he is very good.

 

[Icy Gull]

But who signed Zamora?

Dick Knight.

 

[bhaexpress]

Zamora is the main reason Adams was as succesfull as he was here

Exactly, like Mullery before him his second return showed that without a decent budget he was not up to much. I've seen quite a few Albion teams and I reckon that the current team would give the team that came down from the old First Divison a run for it's money and I would be certain it would beat either Adams or Taylor (the second) teams.

 

[Pavilionaire]

The Albion went away to Colchester and thrashed them without Zamora, leading to ironic singing of "We're just a one-man team". The "one-man" argument is rubbish. Cullip and Oatway were massive contributors to that 'Albion' spirit and bond with the fans.

Anyway, it's normal for most promoted teams to rely on the goals of one main striker; this season is unusual in that the goals are getting shared around.

 

[Icy Gull]

The Albion went away to Colchester and thrashed them without Zamora, leading to ironic singing of "We're just a one-man team". The "one-man" argument is rubbish. Cullip and Oatway were massive contributors to that 'Albion' spirit and bond with the fans.

Anyway, it's normal for most promoted teams to rely on the goals of one main striker; this season is unusual in that the goals are getting shared around.

Who has actually said we were a one man team? Does anyone not believe that Zamora was the difference between us being an OK team and a very good one? Which of our other strikers was up to leading the line?

 

[El Presidente]

Leicester may have had no budget but they lost few, if any players, from their relegated team, which would give any team coming out of the Premiership a decent chance of bouncing back. You again forget the two relegations in three years.

We had just lost at home to Steve Coppell's Brentford when Adams jumped ship and I'm pretty sure we were not top either. We were nowhere near the best team in the Championship that year and I remain convinced that Adams would not have taken us up as Champions, we'll never know but that is my opinion. Based on the fact that tactically I don't think he is very good.

Adams was assistant manager for the first season at Leicester, and took over in April, so I think it is unfair to blame him for relegation.

As for promotion with a zero playing budget, last season Hull, Burnley and Portsmouth were all relegated, yet they are not in the frame for promotion, so I think you are being harsh on MA.

Getting back to the OP, I think to call him 'Thicky Adams' is out of order.