portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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Perfectly said!![]()
Well, someone's gotta speak up for the half-empties round here!
Perfectly said!![]()
just got back from the game.
poke was utterly dreadful, we stood not 20 feet behind him, and he appears completely clueless. the arguing between him and his CBs was unbelievable. he does not command his box, he does not claim high balls, he does not communicate, he cannot block soft shotds, and his distribution was appalling - all just long high balls to the big sole target man holroyd.
I'm as loyal as the next man, but I never ever want to see this bloke poke between our sticks again. gus has admitted his mistake, cancel his contract and get rid now.
i have never seen such a poor keeper.
Why do people constantly have to give our players the benefit of the doubt and trot this tired 1-liner out about having to see him in the flesh before you're allowed to pass judgment?! I mean, after each phone in, people at the same match have clearly seen different games going by much of the debate (!) so being there doesn't qualify you to be a better judge necessarily cause everyone who goes disagrees about who played well etc?
Statistically the majority will actually go on to become footnotes rather than legends so what's the problem with calling a spade when shit is so obviously being shovelled? Especially when said player has been transferred for peanuts from another league 1 club where he couldn't get a game?! I said Smith was terrible after a couple of games. I said the same about Holroyd after two games. Yet some people (not necessarily you UB) kept harping on about giving them more time. Football isn't that long, trialists don't get the same luxury so what is effectively a reserve team tonight needs people to step up or they're not likely to be troubling the 1st team soon are they? Craig Barndoor Davies was another, yes he whose most telling contribution last Sat fr his new club was to get sent off (rumour has it he missed the dressing room on his way up the tunnel). Yet time and time again people leapt to his defence - right up to the point where we said "here's a banjo, go find a herd son and practice".
So in my mind maybe, maybe, some of us, having watched the Albion for many years are just better at spotting dross earlier than quite a few on here? Consequently as far as I'm concerned good people of NSC, criticise away those found wanting in the famous stripes because you're more often right than not. And I hazard to guess than in Poke we've bought a turkey; not least because Poyet's admitted as much. Given the manner of his first goal conceded, hopefully we won't see him repeat his mistake......namely because he won't get near the subs bench let alone first 11.
Why do people constantly have to give our players the benefit of the doubt and trot this tired 1-liner out about having to see him in the flesh before you're allowed to pass judgment?! I mean, after each phone in, people at the same match have clearly seen different games going by much of the debate (!) so being there doesn't qualify you to be a better judge necessarily cause everyone who goes disagrees about who played well etc?
Statistically the majority will actually go on to become footnotes rather than legends so what's the problem with calling a spade when shit is so obviously being shovelled? Especially when said player has been transferred for peanuts from another league 1 club where he couldn't get a game?! I said Smith was terrible after a couple of games. I said the same about Holroyd after two games. Yet some people (not necessarily you UB) kept harping on about giving them more time. Football isn't that long, trialists don't get the same luxury so what is effectively a reserve team tonight needs people to step up or they're not likely to be troubling the 1st team soon are they? Craig Barndoor Davies was another, yes he whose most telling contribution last Sat fr his new club was to get sent off (rumour has it he missed the dressing room on his way up the tunnel). Yet time and time again people leapt to his defence - right up to the point where we said "here's a banjo, go find a herd son and practice".
So in my mind maybe, maybe, some of us, having watched the Albion for many years are just better at spotting dross earlier than quite a few on here? Consequently as far as I'm concerned good people of NSC, criticise away those found wanting in the famous stripes because you're more often right than not. And I hazard to guess than in Poke we've bought a turkey; not least because Poyet's admitted as much. Given the manner of his first goal conceded, hopefully we won't see him repeat his mistake......namely because he won't get near the subs bench let alone first 11.
even gus has kinda admitted hes rubbish to be fair
Why do people constantly have to give our players the benefit of the doubt and trot this tired 1-liner out about having to see him in the flesh before you're allowed to pass judgment?! I mean, after each phone in, people at the same match have clearly seen different games going by much of the debate (!) so being there doesn't qualify you to be a better judge necessarily cause everyone who goes disagrees about who played well etc?
Statistically the majority will actually go on to become footnotes rather than legends so what's the problem with calling a spade when shit is so obviously being shovelled? Especially when said player has been transferred for peanuts from another league 1 club where he couldn't get a game?! I said Smith was terrible after a couple of games. I said the same about Holroyd after two games. Yet some people (not necessarily you UB) kept harping on about giving them more time. Football isn't that long, trialists don't get the same luxury so what is effectively a reserve team tonight needs people to step up or they're not likely to be troubling the 1st team soon are they? Craig Barndoor Davies was another, yes he whose most telling contribution last Sat fr his new club was to get sent off (rumour has it he missed the dressing room on his way up the tunnel). Yet time and time again people leapt to his defence - right up to the point where we said "here's a banjo, go find a herd son and practice".
So in my mind maybe, maybe, some of us, having watched the Albion for many years are just better at spotting dross earlier than quite a few on here? Consequently as far as I'm concerned good people of NSC, criticise away those found wanting in the famous stripes because you're more often right than not. And I hazard to guess than in Poke we've bought a turkey; not least because Poyet's admitted as much. Given the manner of his first goal conceded, hopefully we won't see him repeat his mistake......namely because he won't get near the subs bench let alone first 11.
No not Pokes bird just a real brighton fan who wants our team to succeed and not jump down players throats as if had half a brain cell would no not way to make a player improve.
A player has one bad game and bang, come on use your brains.
Yes players who consistently rubbish eg hawkins, livermore etc deserve it as over time poor but not Poke and other young and new players.
It took a battering in pre season.Nothing to do with Casper.He simply isn't good enough at this level.Confidence took a battering when Casper was brought in and last night I think will be the nail in the coffin of his Brighton career. One year deal and think he might well be out on loan by the end of the month as long as Brez's injury is clearing up.
Torquay fans love him though so its all a bit strange