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Il Duce

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Aug 19, 2006
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Smiths Star Morrissey Embroiled In 'Racism' Row

(Thursday November 29, 2007 12:39 AM)

Singer Morrissey has sparked controversy by claiming British identity has disappeared because the country has been "flooded" by foreigners. The 48-year-old former Smiths star, whose parents were Irish immigrants, suggested that immigration was one of the reasons he would not move back to Britain.

Morrissey, who has spent most of the last decade living in LA and Rome, told NME magazine that countries like Germany still had their own identity and complained of not hearing "British accents" on the streets.

Asked whether he would move back to Britain, he said: "Britain's a terribly negative place. And it hammers people down and it pulls you back and it prevents you.

"Also, with the issue of immigration, it's very difficult because although I don't have anything against people from other countries, the higher the influx into England the more the British identity disappears.

"So the price is enormous. If you travel to Germany, it's still absolutely Germany. If you travel to Sweden, it still has a Swedish identity. But travel to England and you have no idea where you are.

He added: "It matters because the British identity is very attractive. I grew up into it, and I find it quaint and very amusing. But England is a memory now."

He agreed that immigration was enriching the British identity but added "you have to say goodbye to the Britain you once knew".

In a follow-up phone interview, Morrissey told the magazine: "I just think that it could be construed that the reason I wouldn't wish to live in England is the immigration explosion.

"And that's not true at all. I am actually extremely worldly and there are other reasons why I would find England very difficult, such as the expense and the pressure."

He said: "My favourite actor is an Israeli, Lior Ashkenazi, and my favourite singer was born in Iraq and now lives in Egypt. So I'm not a part of Little Britain. And by that, I don't mean the show, obviously."

Asked about his parents moving to Britain, he said: "It's different now. Because the gates are flooded. And anybody can have access to England and join in."

Admitting that he would be "pilloried" for his comments, he added: "You can't say, 'Everybody come into my house, sit on the bed, have what you like, do what you like.' It wouldn't work."

NME wrote: "Morrissey, the son of immigrants who has lived for most of the past decade in either LA or Rome, wants others to have the freedom to travel the world like him, but implies he would shut the gates to people coming to live in the UK.

"He might once have been the voice of a generation, but given his comments in these two interviews, he's certainly not speaking for us now."
 




Il Duce

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Can't argue with anything he says but no doubt it will be blown out of all proportion by the neo-liberal metropolitan masses.
 












Tesco in Disguise

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He agreed that immigration was enriching the British identity but added "you have to say goodbye to the Britain you once knew".

not racist at all. i'd say he was bang on.
 


Normal Rob

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Smiths Star Morrissey Embroiled In 'Racism' Row

NME wrote: "Morrissey, the son of immigrants who has lived for most of the past decade in either LA or Rome, wants others to have the freedom to travel the world like him, but implies he would shut the gates to people coming to live in the UK.

"He might once have been the voice of a generation, but given his comments in these two interviews, he's certainly not speaking for us now."[/SIZE]

working in publishing myself I cannot think of a better example of how the 'youth culture' press has lost its teeth in a swathe of corporacy.
 






Buzzer

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Oct 1, 2006
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There's always been rumours of his views on ethnic minorities.

"Bengali in platforms" for instance "life is hard enough when you belong here"

Personally, I think he has some good points but that his problem is with a changing identity of Britain. A white Manchester where he feels safer and can relate better to it is being swamped. He doesn't relate at all to the music of the ethnic minorities and they have nothing to offer him. The Manchester of his youth is dying if not dead.

Trouble is, it is Stephen. It's called evolution and towns and cities have to evolve.

On balance I'd say Morrissey harbours racist views. He's still a genius and I love him to bits though.
 


Common as Mook

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Jul 26, 2004
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same bloke who sang about how horrible England used to be in the 80's?

He's basically just a miserable c**t IMO.
 




keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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It's not facts, it's opinion, fairly obviously. As it's from the man behind many other 'racist' remarks ('National Front Disco', hatred of rap interview etc) and at a time when he's thankfully been forgotten about all looks a bit like he's just trying to get abit of publicity in his usual hugely underthought and whinging way
 


keaton

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working in publishing myself I cannot think of a better example of how the 'youth culture' press has lost its teeth in a swathe of corporacy.

I'm just happy the press have finally stopped sucking his cock and bothered to question him
 






Il Duce

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the same bloke who sang about how horrible England used to be in the 80's?

He's basically just a miserable c**t IMO.


That is indeed a fair point. But I still like his music.

The thing is, liberals always sound out disappointment when foreign countries are too heavily influenced by e.g. western culture. But when it is our white, British, Christian culture that is being somewhat swamped into oblivion, they love it.
 


keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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That is indeed a fair point. But I still like his music.

The thing is, liberals always sound out disappointment when foreign countries are too heavily influenced by e.g. western culture. But when it is our white, British, Christian culture that is being somewhat swamped into oblivion, they love it.

Is that a fact?
 








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Jun 27, 2007
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Akcherly, it was a statement on your post.

As Keaton says above, he was stating an opinion. To me, his England is quite different from my England.

And as I stated "IMO he is stating facts"

If you don't think British identity is slowly dissapearing then fair enough.

Just because it doesn't affect your cosy life, doesn't mean it isn't happening.
 


And as I stated "IMO he is stating facts"

If you don't think British identity is slowly dissapearing then fair enough.

Just because it doesn't affect your cosy life, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

All you're effectively saying there is "I'm right and you're wrong".

If two people can disagree on something (without one of them patently being wrong) then surely it is an opinion, as preferred to a fact?
 


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