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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .








Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
8,493
Trump is all for MAGA unless it’s a luxury upgrade to Airforce One:

Boeing, had been contracted to provide the White House with 2 newer planes but now Trump in discussions to get a ‘flying palace‘ from Qatar instead because Boeing are behind schedule.

Apparently accepting a ‘gift‘ from a Country with a record of human rights abuses on migrant workers (and the obvious security issues to using a jet gifted by a Country that harbours a group that the US designates as ’terrorists’) is preferable to honouring contracts to American companies when it comes to Trump’s obsession with gold-plated interiors.

The man really has no moral compass whatsoever:


 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
58,791
Back in Sussex
For many years the World has wondered why Prescription Drugs and Pharmaceuticals in the United States States of America were SO MUCH HIGHER IN PRICE THAN THEY WERE IN ANY OTHER NATION, SOMETIMES BEING FIVE TO TEN TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE SAME DRUG, MANUFACTURED IN THE EXACT SAME LABORATORY OR PLANT, BY THE SAME COMPANY??? It was always difficult to explain and very embarrassing because, in fact, there was no correct or rightful answer. The Pharmaceutical/Drug Companies would say, for years, that it was Research and Development Costs, and that all of these costs were, and would be, for no reason whatsoever, borne by the “suckers” of America, ALONE. Campaign Contributions can do wonders, but not with me, and not with the Republican Party. We are going to do the right thing, something that the Democrats have fought for many years. Therefore, I am pleased to announce that Tomorrow morning, in the White House, at 9:00 A.M., I will be signing one of the most consequential Executive Orders in our Country’s history. Prescription Drug and Pharmaceutical prices will be REDUCED, almost immediately, by 30% to 80%. They will rise throughout the World in order to equalize and, for the first time in many years, bring FAIRNESS TO AMERICA! I will be instituting a MOST FAVORED NATION’S POLICY whereby the United States will pay the same price as the Nation that pays the lowest price anywhere in the World. Our Country will finally be treated fairly, and our citizens Healthcare Costs will be reduced by numbers never even thought of before. Additionally, on top of everything else, the United States will save TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,461
For many years the World has wondered why Prescription Drugs and Pharmaceuticals in the United States States of America were SO MUCH HIGHER IN PRICE THAN THEY WERE IN ANY OTHER NATION, SOMETIMES BEING FIVE TO TEN TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE SAME DRUG, MANUFACTURED IN THE EXACT SAME LABORATORY OR PLANT, BY THE SAME COMPANY??? It was always difficult to explain and very embarrassing because, in fact, there was no correct or rightful answer. The Pharmaceutical/Drug Companies would say, for years, that it was Research and Development Costs, and that all of these costs were, and would be, for no reason whatsoever, borne by the “suckers” of America, ALONE. Campaign Contributions can do wonders, but not with me, and not with the Republican Party. We are going to do the right thing, something that the Democrats have fought for many years. Therefore, I am pleased to announce that Tomorrow morning, in the White House, at 9:00 A.M., I will be signing one of the most consequential Executive Orders in our Country’s history. Prescription Drug and Pharmaceutical prices will be REDUCED, almost immediately, by 30% to 80%. They will rise throughout the World in order to equalize and, for the first time in many years, bring FAIRNESS TO AMERICA! I will be instituting a MOST FAVORED NATION’S POLICY whereby the United States will pay the same price as the Nation that pays the lowest price anywhere in the World. Our Country will finally be treated fairly, and our citizens Healthcare Costs will be reduced by numbers never even thought of before. Additionally, on top of everything else, the United States will save TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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:lolol: is that before or after tariffs?
 




peterward

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
13,098
Trump is all for MAGA unless it’s a luxury upgrade to Airforce One:

Boeing, had been contracted to provide the White House with 2 newer planes but now Trump in discussions to get a ‘flying palace‘ from Qatar instead because Boeing are behind schedule.

Apparently accepting a ‘gift‘ from a Country with a record of human rights abuses on migrant workers (and the obvious security issues to using a jet gifted by a Country that harbours a group that the US designates as ’terrorists’) is preferable to honouring contracts to American companies when it comes to Trump’s obsession with gold-plated interiors.

The man really has no moral compass whatsoever:


 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
21,195
Eastbourne
For many years the World has wondered why Prescription Drugs and Pharmaceuticals in the United States States of America were SO MUCH HIGHER IN PRICE THAN THEY WERE IN ANY OTHER NATION, SOMETIMES BEING FIVE TO TEN TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE SAME DRUG, MANUFACTURED IN THE EXACT SAME LABORATORY OR PLANT, BY THE SAME COMPANY??? It was always difficult to explain and very embarrassing because, in fact, there was no correct or rightful answer. The Pharmaceutical/Drug Companies would say, for years, that it was Research and Development Costs, and that all of these costs were, and would be, for no reason whatsoever, borne by the “suckers” of America, ALONE. Campaign Contributions can do wonders, but not with me, and not with the Republican Party. We are going to do the right thing, something that the Democrats have fought for many years. Therefore, I am pleased to announce that Tomorrow morning, in the White House, at 9:00 A.M., I will be signing one of the most consequential Executive Orders in our Country’s history. Prescription Drug and Pharmaceutical prices will be REDUCED, almost immediately, by 30% to 80%. They will rise throughout the World in order to equalize and, for the first time in many years, bring FAIRNESS TO AMERICA! I will be instituting a MOST FAVORED NATION’S POLICY whereby the United States will pay the same price as the Nation that pays the lowest price anywhere in the World. Our Country will finally be treated fairly, and our citizens Healthcare Costs will be reduced by numbers never even thought of before. Additionally, on top of everything else, the United States will save TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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Americans may pay more in part to pharmaceutical complanies overpricing products, but a lot of the extra cost is due to an uninsured population. Trump, by comparing the lowest paying country with the USA has once again shown a complete lack of understanding of how the world economy works. He is in favour of equalisation but only in principle to make the product cheaper for the US, would he be in favour of equalisation in terms of pay for the workers of the lowest ranked country as well? He is so myopic it is sickening.
 




darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
8,206
Sittingbourne, Kent
Americans may pay more in part to pharmaceutical complanies overpricing products, but a lot of the extra cost is due to an uninsured population. Trump, by comparing the lowest paying country with the USA has once again shown a complete lack of understanding of how the world economy works. He is in favour of equalisation but only in principle to make the product cheaper for the US, would he be in favour of equalisation in terms of pay for the workers of the lowest ranked country as well? He is so myopic it is sickening.
Conversely much of the increase in costs in American healthcare is BECAUSE many ARE insured, with the service providers bumping the costs up because they know the insurance companies will cover it...
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
21,195
Eastbourne
Conversely much of the increase in costs in American healthcare is BECAUSE many ARE insured, with the service providers bumping the costs up because they know the insurance companies will cover it...
Maybe they need a national health service? Or something like Obamacare? Trumpcare? :facepalm:
 








SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
NSC Patron
Jan 25, 2025
952
I will be instituting a MOST FAVORED NATION’S POLICY whereby the United States will pay the same price as the Nation that pays the lowest price anywhere in the World.
He’ll be shocked, shocked I tell you, when he finds out that pharmaceuticals raise prices in every country to US levels and nothing changes for Americans.
 


Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
8,493
Americans may pay more in part to pharmaceutical complanies overpricing products, but a lot of the extra cost is due to an uninsured population. Trump, by comparing the lowest paying country with the USA has once again shown a complete lack of understanding of how the world economy works. He is in favour of equalisation but only in principle to make the product cheaper for the US, would he be in favour of equalisation in terms of pay for the workers of the lowest ranked country as well? He is so myopic it is sickening.
The NHS could potentially have to pay more for its pharmaceuticals and there could be real shortages in the supply chain.
Under the trade deal we could negotiate lower tariffs on imports but as it stands with a quarter of the UK’s pharmaceuticals exported to the US, it could cost us although we could benefit by being more competitive in our imports of medicines from India and China.

The biggest concern is this will start a global pharmaceutical trade war and NHS patients will find it difficult to get certain medications


 




Fignon's Ponytail

Well-known member
Jun 29, 2012
4,816
On the Beach
Imagine being so corrupt that even your staunchest follower, and head loon, takes issue with what you're doing....

Laura Loomer, a conservative activist and Trump supporter, wrote in a Sunday X post: "I love President Trump. I would take a bullet for him. But, I have to call a spade a spade. We cannot accept a $400 million 'gift' from jihadists in suits. The Qataris fund the same Iranian proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah who have murdered US Service Members. The same proxies that have worked with the Mexican cartels to get jihadists across our border. This is really going to be such a stain on the admin if this is true. And I say that as someone who would take a bullet for Trump. I'm so disappointed."
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,461
US row'd back from 145% tariffs on China, reduced to 30% for 90 days. was expecting a disagreement to start the week but looks like going the otherway, expect something like this level plus a load of details to be end game.
 


fly high

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
2,345
in a house

If you are black non American, Hispanic or Ukrainian we are going to throw you out, if you are white South African, as is Musk, we will welcome you with open arms.
 


Birdie Boy

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2011
4,644
Imagine being so corrupt that even your staunchest follower, and head loon, takes issue with what you're doing....

Laura Loomer, a conservative activist and Trump supporter, wrote in a Sunday X post: "I love President Trump. I would take a bullet for him. But, I have to call a spade a spade. We cannot accept a $400 million 'gift' from jihadists in suits. The Qataris fund the same Iranian proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah who have murdered US Service Members. The same proxies that have worked with the Mexican cartels to get jihadists across our border. This is really going to be such a stain on the admin if this is true. And I say that as someone who would take a bullet for Trump. I'm so disappointed."
Apart from the fact that it is against the constitution to accept gifts, let alone a $400m one, going by their lack of intelligence, I'm hoping that they will accept the plane and not check it thoroughly and it goes boom on his first flight! Would it be too much to ask that Putin, his bestest mate is on there as well?
 




Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
16,618
Cumbria
For many years the World has wondered why Prescription Drugs and Pharmaceuticals in the United States States of America were SO MUCH HIGHER IN PRICE THAN THEY WERE IN ANY OTHER NATION, SOMETIMES BEING FIVE TO TEN TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE SAME DRUG, MANUFACTURED IN THE EXACT SAME LABORATORY OR PLANT, BY THE SAME COMPANY??? It was always difficult to explain and very embarrassing because, in fact, there was no correct or rightful answer. The Pharmaceutical/Drug Companies would say, for years, that it was Research and Development Costs, and that all of these costs were, and would be, for no reason whatsoever, borne by the “suckers” of America, ALONE. Campaign Contributions can do wonders, but not with me, and not with the Republican Party. We are going to do the right thing, something that the Democrats have fought for many years. Therefore, I am pleased to announce that Tomorrow morning, in the White House, at 9:00 A.M., I will be signing one of the most consequential Executive Orders in our Country’s history. Prescription Drug and Pharmaceutical prices will be REDUCED, almost immediately, by 30% to 80%. They will rise throughout the World in order to equalize and, for the first time in many years, bring FAIRNESS TO AMERICA! I will be instituting a MOST FAVORED NATION’S POLICY whereby the United States will pay the same price as the Nation that pays the lowest price anywhere in the World. Our Country will finally be treated fairly, and our citizens Healthcare Costs will be reduced by numbers never even thought of before. Additionally, on top of everything else, the United States will save TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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I can't see this is a 'bad thing' really?
 




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