[Football] Russell Martin

[Hovegull]

Great podcast interview with Russell released today, on Gary Linekers “The rest is football”. Very insightful about his early years growing up in Brighton, his violent upbringing, not getting into the Brighton school teams. Playing for Scotland despite being Brighton born and bred. Talked a lot about the managers who he liked working for most and being really upset about being sacked from Southampton.
Worth a listen, seems like a good guy.

Definitely seems to be in contention for Leicester.

 

[Insel affe]

I like the fella, he has his haters on here for some reason.

 

[tstanbur]

I like the fella, he has his haters on here for some reason.

Jealousy

 

[tstanbur]

Great podcast interview with Russell released today, on Gary Linekers “The rest is football”. Very insightful about his early years growing up in Brighton, his violent upbringing, not getting into the Brighton school teams. Playing for Scotland despite being Brighton born and bred. Talked a lot about the managers who he liked working for most and being really upset about being sacked from Southampton.
Worth a listen, seems like a good guy.

Definitely seems to be in contention for Leicester.

He was brilliant on Sky Sports Monday Night Football recently too.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Did and Q and A with him in Brighton for his foundation the other month. Really nice bloke, effectively stitched up by the Saints as far back as last summer, Sporting Director left for Man United (Jason Wilcox), no one replaced him, all of RM's original transfer targets, including Jordan Henderson, never materialised, the four ex EPL players they did sign, had all been previously relegated.

Hope he gets back into football very soon, as he's one of the good guys and a decent coach, with decent players.

 

[peterward]

Did and Q and A with him in Brighton for his foundation the other month. Really nice bloke, effectively stitched up by the Saints as far back as last summer, Sporting Director left for Man United (Jason Wilcox), no one replaced him, all of RM's original transfer targets, including Jordan Henderson, never materialised, the four ex EPL players they did sign, had all been previously relegated.

Hope he gets back into football very soon, as he's one of the good guys and a decent coach, with decent players.

agree.

And whisper it ever so quietly.

He'd do well with a squad of our ability.

 

[Withdean South Stand]

He will go abroad to a club in Spain who will appreciate and understand the style of football he wants to play, and then he'll be a real contender to be our next manager if he performs well and we are in the market for a new manager after next season.

 

[Justice]

Interesting, they didn’t get automatic promotion under him went up via the play offs. Made a complete mess of the PL and now he’s being highly rated?
I’d rather Liam Roseinor as our next manager than Martin.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Did and Q and A with him in Brighton for his foundation the other month. Really nice bloke, effectively stitched up by the Saints as far back as last summer, Sporting Director left for Man United (Jason Wilcox), no one replaced him, all of RM's original transfer targets, including Jordan Henderson, never materialised, the four ex EPL players they did sign, had all been previously relegated.

Hope he gets back into football very soon, as he's one of the good guys and a decent coach, with decent players.

Indeed. Certain similarities between him and Graham Pottter, both need to be given time to build their own squad, and both like to play a possession based game.

In a different scenario, and had there been a vacancy, we may have been considered for the head coach role here, certainly he would have been given the necessary time to make his mark, Tony doesn't weild the axe unless absolutely necessary.

 

[Commander]

Continued to play a possession game at all cost at Saints, with a squad woefully ill-equipped to do it in the Premier League, and knowing full well it would get them relegated. Presumably hoping for a Vincent Kompany type situation at the end. It's just bad management in my book. You're paid millions of pounds a year but can only play one way, and when it is blindingly obvious that it isn't going to work, you just keep doing the same thing over and over again because you're not talented or versatile enough to find another way to win games, which is after all what you are paid to do.

There is no way I would want to hire a Manager like that if I were a football Chairman.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Interesting, they didn’t get automatic promotion under him went up via the play offs. Made a complete mess of the PL and now he’s being highly rated?
I’d rather Liam Roseinor as our next manager than Martin.

Yeh. Adaptability is the problem. Sometimes you need to sacrifice your principles to close out a game or get a tough away point. Martin has got a lot to prove before he would get a mid level PL job

 

[cjd]

Continued to play a possession game at all cost at Saints, with a squad woefully ill-equipped to do it in the Premier League, and knowing full well it would get them relegated. Presumably hoping for a Vincent Kompany type situation at the end. It's just bad management in my book. You're paid millions of pounds a year but can only play one way, and when it is blindingly obvious that it isn't going to work, you just keep doing the same thing over and over again because you're not talented or versatile enough to find another way to win games, which is after all what you are paid to do.

There is no way I would want to hire a Manager like that if I were a football Chairman.

I hope you don't think I am being too hasty, but....

I, m going to put you down as a possible "not for me Clive".

 

[Eeyore]

I like the fella, he has his haters on here for some reason.

Folk hate for no reason. Tis an odd pastime.

 

[Chicken Run]

agree.

And whisper it ever so quietly.

He'd do well with a squad of our ability.

We lose on Saturday and he might get his chance

 

[tstanbur]

knowing full well it would get them relegated.

did he? where's your proof?

(just making a point as you pulled me up on exactly this the other day!)

 

[Hovegull]

I think his reasoning at Southampton was that he was all about getting some of the younger players to come through, and to be assets. He certainly saw potential in them to do this and it wouldn’t happen overnight, but it was starting to take shape. Then he was sacked.
We’ll never know what might’ve been for Southampton this season had he stayed.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

We’ll never know what might’ve been for Southampton this season had he stayed.

I think we can all have a pretty good guess

 

[Hovegull]

I think we can all have a pretty good guess

And the trend of the three up going down would have been expected and probably would have happened. They may have been a little more competitive though, and they may have found some talent within the squad

 

[Commander]

did he? where's your proof?

(just making a point as you pulled me up on exactly this the other day!)

Well it might not be proof, but the fact that everyone else on the planet could see it suggests that he must have had an inkling.

 

[Han Solo]

Continued to play a possession game at all cost at Saints, with a squad woefully ill-equipped to do it in the Premier League, and knowing full well it would get them relegated. Presumably hoping for a Vincent Kompany type situation at the end. It's just bad management in my book. You're paid millions of pounds a year but can only play one way, and when it is blindingly obvious that it isn't going to work, you just keep doing the same thing over and over again because you're not talented or versatile enough to find another way to win games, which is after all what you are paid to do.

There is no way I would want to hire a Manager like that if I were a football Chairman.

There's nothing this Southampton squad is well-equipped to do in the Premier League.

Imo the right approach for Southampton would have been "accept the squad is weak and try to use the PL year to build something that can bounce straight back up and be more competitive the next time". Like Ipswich did, renewing the contract with their manager despite knowing that reaching 25 points would count as a good season. Play nice football, develop players, show off the academy, work hard, lose big. Add some sugar and long-term hope to the despair.

Not saying Martin would have been the right or wrong option for that, but imo it would have been the right approach to do like Ipswich.

Instead, Southampton spends the summer bringing in has "players last seen doing nothing" like Adam Lallana and Charlie Taylor, along with some loanees. This along with sacking Juric and Martin has made the football world well aware that the football directors of Southampton has no direction or idea about the future because they've engaged themselves in some deluded and half-hearted attempt of competing in the division this year.

I'm not saying Russell Martin is a fantastic coach or anything, but the results he had were expectedand very few would have gotten much more out if it.