[Albion] Would this squad be higher with De Zerbi?
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macbeth
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where’s the poll?
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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How are we going to see the answer? NSC will bucket about it and Potter will get thrown into the conversation and we will go round and round with no conclusion.
We also need to agree on which RdZ too, with or without his toys in the pram.
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OzMike
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The whole squad would be injured.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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RDZ didn't lose to Palace.
I'll take whichever version it was that turned up for the 4-1 in February last year. Or the ones that turned up for all the other games he didn't lose against them.
Edit: to answer the actual question. Who knows? What I think is this squad should be performing better than it is. Maybe RDZ's race with us was run so perhaps he'd be doing worse. But we should still be doing better regardless of who the manager is.
Barryseagulls
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I think it’s the injuries that are hurting us. Rutter physicality & ability to create space in the box is a huge miss & that was obvious against Villa & Palace.
No.
We haven't done anything he wanted, and we'd hear a weekly heartbreaking press conference about Pascal Gross being replaced by some relegated kid from Leeds.
First and foremost, the club didn't sign what De Zerbi fans considered a must for De Zerbi success: multiple world class players in their peak ages.
According to pretty much all threads last season, he couldn't help us from being a bottom team over 30 games unless we signed ready made like-for-like replacements for the injured wingers and the sold midfielders.
To the despair of some, Brighton can't operate like that, and needed a manager who can make a football team perform without signing world class players. It is necessary because our model is to buy top young talent and develop it over the line.
To any set of functioning eyes it was visible that neither club nor team was particularly harmonic last season and regardless if you understand it was De Zerbis fault or pretend it was Tonys, the rift was there for all to see. While I haven't yet read the comments in this thread, I can't imagine even many of the biggest Zerbi fanatics thinking it would have been a sensible idea to keep going.
We haven't done anything he wanted, and we'd hear a weekly heartbreaking press conference about Pascal Gross being replaced by some relegated kid from Leeds.
First and foremost, the club didn't sign what De Zerbi fans considered a must for De Zerbi success: multiple world class players in their peak ages.
According to pretty much all threads last season, he couldn't help us from being a bottom team over 30 games unless we signed ready made like-for-like replacements for the injured wingers and the sold midfielders.
To the despair of some, Brighton can't operate like that, and needed a manager who can make a football team perform without signing world class players. It is necessary because our model is to buy top young talent and develop it over the line.
To any set of functioning eyes it was visible that neither club nor team was particularly harmonic last season and regardless if you understand it was De Zerbis fault or pretend it was Tonys, the rift was there for all to see. While I haven't yet read the comments in this thread, I can't imagine even many of the biggest Zerbi fanatics thinking it would have been a sensible idea to keep going.
Uh_huh_him
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RDZ left because he knew the club would not relent on their transfer policy.
He wanted some players in their prime to supplement the experienced and youthful players.
Our best first team is lacking experienced premier league players between the age of 25-30.
The only players we have in this profile are, Pervis and Mitoma. 2 of our most overplayed players.
Wharton was the only player in Palace's starting 11 yesterday, who wasn't in that age/experience profile.
It matters.
I understand the club's policy and it is definitely helping us punch above our weight, but it is a hindrance for our managers.
He wanted some players in their prime to supplement the experienced and youthful players.
Our best first team is lacking experienced premier league players between the age of 25-30.
The only players we have in this profile are, Pervis and Mitoma. 2 of our most overplayed players.
Wharton was the only player in Palace's starting 11 yesterday, who wasn't in that age/experience profile.
It matters.
I understand the club's policy and it is definitely helping us punch above our weight, but it is a hindrance for our managers.
Yes - for season and a half RdZ.
Probably unlikely last 3 months RdZ.
Probably unlikely last 3 months RdZ.
Hometownglory
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Yes, we go through all the ups, downs and inconsistency for two years, then flog them and so it starts again. The food chain.
It'll be the same with Fab. He'll refine his craft and then just as it clicks, he'll go. It will be quite interesting to see if Bournemouth, Palace, Brentford and Fulham can hold on their managers if a 'big' club makes an official approach. I have this gut feeling that they will put up much stronger fight than we do.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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Plucky already have, Frank’s been there many seasons now. Same can be argued for the rest given ours have 3 good games and everyone wants ‘em. By that measurement all the others successfully retain managers
martin tyler
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Impossible to say isn’t it.
I’d guess no but only because the squad has once again been ravaged by injuries. We have 3 players who are about 20 years old playing CM most the time and now Gomez who is 22. March has been replaced by a 19 year old winger. We havnt improved at CB or in the full back positions and the one player I think RDZ would have really liked has a toe injury that seems to have ruled him out forever.
This squad is stronger overall than the one RDZ finished with in terms of numbers but I don’t know if he would have got much more from them. That maybe down to his own issues that seem to follow him around but I really think he wouldn’t have been happy enough to bring the energy he needs to manage.
I’d guess no but only because the squad has once again been ravaged by injuries. We have 3 players who are about 20 years old playing CM most the time and now Gomez who is 22. March has been replaced by a 19 year old winger. We havnt improved at CB or in the full back positions and the one player I think RDZ would have really liked has a toe injury that seems to have ruled him out forever.
This squad is stronger overall than the one RDZ finished with in terms of numbers but I don’t know if he would have got much more from them. That maybe down to his own issues that seem to follow him around but I really think he wouldn’t have been happy enough to bring the energy he needs to manage.
martin tyler
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Always been surprised no one has come in for Thomas Frank - think he’s been a fantastic manager.
I’d be most worried if I was Bournemouth as he seems to be the type that lots of clubs would be after.
Glad er was decent before in Germany but has Palace playing well. RB Leipzig would be tempting but I think they could fend them off at least for one more year. Not sure anyone will come in for Fulham manager that will be a big enough interest
maffew
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Think we need a would this squad be lower with Dean Cox thread