[Albion] Burnley vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

[Thunder Bolt]

Does anyone else think we have too many coaches...?

We could do with off loading some of them , including the interpreter. Why is de Zerbi is struggling so much with our language after being here almost 24/7, talking everyday to the players for the last 18 months ?

I haven't heard much improvement in his English for the last few months.

What a spiteful post!

 

[Poyningsgull]

Do you know a lot about reaching proficiency in a foreign language?

No but he would do a great job on tiling your bathroom.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Yeah I get what you're saying.
I think I mean dogmatic in the sense that he is so tied to one idea he literally doesn't know what he's doing right now. He doesn't have the players to play his style of football so he's kinda gone into paralysis.
Whereas some managers would be "who's fit, where do they play, what's the best tactic for these players", fire them up, send that out. I'm certain we'd be getting better results right now with most managers in the league.

Agreed.

Rather than worrying about his future and the club’s ‘plan’ all the time, he should be concentrating on managing and getting the most out of the very talented players he has available now and try to think of a ‘plan’ for them to start scoring some goals and winning some football matches.

 

[Zeberdi]

And maybe, just maybe (it's possible...) a squad that's tired of the rigid, structured demands of De Zerbi ball.
Although, looking back (it seems a long time ago now ) we didn't look rigid when Mitoma and Pervis were marauding up one wing, and March up the other.
So yes... agreeing with you .

Indeed but I would probably say ‘tired because of De Zerbi ball’

It’s a physically demanding system he plays is it not? - not only the foot/ankle skills required eg excessive levels of one touch passing but because it’s so possession focussed: Every player is involved regardless of where the ball is on the pitch, attacking the space, overlapping and cutting in and with high defence lines that require a lot more sprinting to defend counterattacks than if our defence held back behind the ball more.

I imagine RDZ’s personality and training instructions are quite mentally draining too.

I’m not for one minute blaming our injuries on RDZ - we didn’t have this injury level last season as you imply. However, injury levels do tend to have an exponential component - the less players you have, the more you need to play young or unconditioned players the more fatigued and the higher the risk of injury - unless you have the depth of squad that doesn’t need to overuse players to cover for injured ones.

 

[Forster's Armband]

But I don’t think he is being particularly dogmatic at the moment. In fact I would say it’s the opposite. We have no identity or direction currently, we’re rudderless, just drifting from game to game with no obvious plan or decent passages of play.

He won't deviate from his style which I think he may need to a little to get through this rough patch.

I see posters on here slagging other clubs for not giving managers time especially Chelsea and now after a season and a half RDZ’s time is up for some
The board are just as much at fault for this season as the players and manager are.

I think it's more than just wanting to sack him. He's been grumpy as f$*k since Jan and I worry that is affecting the players, his tactics have lost us games (Roma, Luton, Fulham, Villa) because we don't have the plan that if we go a goal or two down we should just calm things and wait, we seem to keep going gung ho. I know we have a mad injury list but that 11 that started today is better than Burnley's 11 and we've not beaten them this season. I don't want him sacked but I think it's more complex than what Chelsea or Man U would do. If he goes one way or another I won't be that bothered and thats very odd to say after last season.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

He won't deviate from his style which I think he may need to a little to get through this rough patch.

I think it's more than just wanting to sack him. He's been grumpy as f$*k since Jan and I worry that is affecting the players, his tactics have lost us games (Roma, Luton, Fulham, Villa) because we don't have the plan that if we go a goal or two down we should just calm things and wait, we seem to keep going gung ho. I know we have a mad injury list but that 11 that started today is better than Burnley's 11 and we've not beaten them this season. I don't want him sacked but I think it's more complex than what Chelsea or Man U would do. If he goes one way or another I won't be that bothered and thats very odd to say after last season.

The problem is I don’t see any style at all at the moment.

 

[jcdenton08]

I didn’t see the game today, can someone fill me in please on why Pervis went off? I’m guessing injury but read he was very lucky not to concede a penalty just before

 

[jimhigham]

We are still top10 with 10 injured players!

Agreed. That’s why I hope calm heads prevail and all concerned have a bit of a breather this summer.

I was merely musing on what Tony may or may not be thinking.

Which I admit is a pointless activity.

 

[Blues Guitarist]

Two things stood out today.

Verbruggen mixed up his distribution with a significant number of longer balls to specific players, not just hoofs up field.

Many times when we had a break building, it was stopped by a foul on Joao Pedro or Wellbeck. Most of their 18 fouls seemed to be on these two, but Hooper wasn’t interested in booking anyone.

 

[raymondo]

Adingra was never meant to play this much in his first season, when we didn’t keep hold of JS in January was insane.

Yep, it was weird how that option was not pursued. May not have worked out great, but surely would have been worth trying.

 

[Justice]

The problem is I don’t see any style at all at the moment.

No manager will replicate last years achievements without that midfield, it’s gone from world class to a raw kid, last seasons third choice (who’s injured) Gross and Moder who tends to play further forward.

Potter had Mac, Biss, Caciedo, Mwepu and achieved a mid table finish we are currently in mid table.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

I didn’t see the game today, can someone fill me in please on why Pervis went off? I’m guessing injury but read he was very lucky not to concede a penalty just before

Looked like a hamstring pull, possibly.

 

[Justice]

Yep, it was weird how that option was not pursued. May not have worked out great, but surely would have been worth trying.

A re run of last seasons FA cup game was on tv the other night against Liverpool, JS was superb when he came on. Boy have we changed from that performance profit over players I guess.

 

[raymondo]

Indeed but I would probably say ‘tired because of De Zerbi ball’

It’s a physically demanding system he plays is it not? - not only the foot/ankle skills required eg excessive levels of one touch passing but because it’s so possession focussed: Every player is involved regardless of where the ball is on the pitch, attacking the space, overlapping and cutting in and with high defence lines that require a lot more sprinting to defend counterattacks than if our defence held back behind the ball more.

I imagine RDZ’s personality and training instructions are quite mentally draining too.

I’m not for one minute blaming our injuries on RDZ - we didn’t have this injury level last season as you imply. However, injury levels do tend to have an exponential component - the less players you have, the more you need to play young or unconditioned players the more fatigued and the higher the risk of injury - unless you have the depth of squad that doesn’t need to overuse players to cover for injured ones.

Yep, absolutely, the system and training must be exhausting, probably mentally even more than physically.

 

[Dave the OAP]

So if we don’t score against city and Bournemouth, that oh will be our goal of the month for April

 

[cjd]

Do you know a lot about reaching proficiency in a foreign language?

I didn't say anything about "reaching proficiency" in a foreign language. I am very aware of "reaching proficiency" of another language.

I said...."I hadn't heard much improvement in his English for the last few months".

Maybe you should learn to read more carefully before replying.

As regards the 'interpreter', you will probably know that if someone beside you is fluent in the language that you need to understand, it is so easy to just rely on them instead of persevering on your own. It happens , as I know from personal experience.

De Zerbi is coach of an English Football Club, where the spoken English is vitally important when wanting your players to cope with the intricate style of football that he demands. I do wonder how many of his coaching assistants are Italian...?

 

[birthofanorange]

We'll finish 10th or thereabouts, which is by no means matching our expectations, but equally it's by no means a bad season, and no matter what anyone says, our injury list HAS played a big part in it.
I'm disappointed, but by no means despondent - we can't be expecting to achieve the dizzy heights of 6th/and Europe every season, and I'm accepting of that.
Only a few seasons ago we would have been over the moon with 10th spot.
RDZ firmly IN, for me.
We go again next season.

 

[BevBHA]

We'll finish 10th or thereabouts

Will we? Because I can’t see us getting another point now

 

[AlbionBro]

I didn't say anything about "reaching proficiency" in a foreign language. I am very aware of "reaching proficiency" of another language.

I said...."I hadn't heard much improvement in his English for the last few months".

Maybe you should learn to read more carefully before replying.

As regards the 'interpreter', you will probably know that if someone beside you is fluent in the language that you need to understand, it is so easy to just rely on them instead of persevering on your own. It happens , as I know from personal experience.

De Zerbi is coach of an English Football Club, where the spoken English is vitally important when wanting your players to cope with the intricate style of football that he demands. I do wonder how many of his coaching assistants are Italian...?

He maybe starting to learn German and just doesn't have the time for both.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

We'll finish 10th or thereabouts, which is by no means matching our expectations, but equally it's by no means a bad season, and no matter what anyone says, our injury list HAS played a big part in it.
I'm disappointed, but by no means despondent - we can't be expecting to achieve the dizzy heights of 6th/and Europe every season, and I'm accepting of that.
Only a few seasons ago we would have been over the moon with 10th spot.
RDZ firmly IN, for me.
We go again next season.

There is no way we’re finishing 10th.

Bournemouth only behind us in 11th now on goal difference and the way they’re playing against United currently, they could get those goals tonight!

Wolves also just one point behind us now. And with us having by far the hardest run in, 13th looks our most likely final position.